hey everyone. if you want to post links or discuss the Reddit blackout, its aftermath, and what’s happening going forward, please localize it to this thread in order to keep things tidy! thanks! we’ll see if we need to cycle the thread again before the end of this week, but i don’t know that we’ll need to
Rest of the week? No.
The answer is until they lower to a more reasonable price and work with Apollo and RIF (at the very least) so that they can keep their apps running while transitioning their users to a new pricing structure that will allow them to not be bankrupted in the short term because of the price adjustment.
Yeah I simply don’t understand the idea of limited blackouts in this case. Clearly the only viable option is complete silence until or unless certain demands are heard imo.
Complete silence is impossible. At best only a tiny fraction of power users are the ones invested enough to care about the impact of what Reddit’s doing, and are willing to do anything about it. The 99% of the platform who are lurkers, by and large don’t contribute, and just want the platform back open and for everyone else to stop complaining are what’s being fought over.
If you shut down enough of the platform - which the power users and mods can do by setting to private, restricting posting, or simply not posting when they otherwise would have - then the lurkers go to the site, see nothing to interact with and leave (or at the very least, spend less time on the platform as there is “less” to do). Over a long enough time span that would have started showing up in a big way. But it wasn’t going to happen in two days. If anything, the blackout was so telegraphed and so much news got stirred up that it would make total sense if their traffic was actually not impacted or was even high for those two days (at least in terms of clicks and votes, not posts and comments). The lurkers are still valuable to Reddit though - that’s where their advertising revenue is coming from.
People mass deleting their post history will hurt the platform. Some big subreddits staying private will hurt the platform. Some small subreddits staying private will hurt the platform. All of those things can bleed away users and diminish Reddit’s usefulness and dominance. Really the ideal outcome is we scare them enough that they pull back to a more reasonable position and things can continue as normal. Maybe Huffman gets ousted and they plan a longer timescale and more reasonable pricing.
It’s just amazing really. Had they rolled out a reasonable rated plan, and maybe even a discount to highly known apps, and even set a “the price will go up each 6 months for the next 2 years till we reach this higher, but still reasonable price”… All the apps would have added a subscription model for like $0.99 a month and none of us would have really complained.
Like, honestly most of us would have paid and maybe grumbled slightly but said “that’s the cost of maintaining this huge community, and I get more than $0.99 in value from it” and just kept shit posting on Reddit all day.
If they wanted to block AI models, limit the API keys to only well known apps or those that are manually verified to be not-an-AI by reddit admins.
It’s amazing how dumb a corporation can be sometimes (or has some nefarious endgame ala Twitter)