I had a discussion with @[email protected] recently where they insisted that Anarchists on Hexbear accept Lenin’s analysis of Imperialism and therefore all support “Actual Existing Socialist” states such as Cuba, USSR and I guess North Korea as well.

In fact, they argued it’s the reason most anarchists of Hexbear don’t like to discuss anarchism away from hexbear, explicitly because outside anarchists do not support “AES”.

So I’m curious to see what your thoughts are on this. If you’re an anarchist who supports “AES” how do you square this support with the conflict these states have with anarchist theory on hierarchy?

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
    16·
    10 days ago

    I’m actually not up to date on what the ML analysis on China is lately. Do they still consider it “AES” or is it seen more capitalist nowadays? I can’t always keep up with the mental gymnastics on display :D

    • Zagorath@aussie.zone
      252·
      10 days ago

      Hexbear doesn’t care about the answer to that question. They support modern-day Russia which doesn’t have any pretense of socialism. Their stance is first and foremost anti-American. Anything else is window dressing.

      • NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
        5·
        9 days ago

        Do they? I have blocked a few but mostly I see them either being sad at conscription of ukranian people to fight dumb imperial shit (conscription being bad seems uncontroversial to me), and supporting resistance to USA imperialism as necessary while acknowledging the Russian state is deeply disfunctional and exploitative.

        • Zagorath@aussie.zone
          9·
          9 days ago

          Using anything about America to justify Russia’s war of aggression in Ukraine is an obvious attempt to rationalise their support for something indefensible. The only involvement America has in this particular war is helping the victim of an invasion defend themselves.

          • NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.orgEnglish
            2·
            8 days ago

            I don’t think many people are glad Russia invaded.

            You should probably not confuse countries and people though, while invading is bad the usa and allies using this as a proxy war to weaken Russia has just resulted in more Ukrainian people dying. It’s not actually helping any of the people in the invaded regions to conscript them and send them into a meat grinder to die. Regardless of who ends up paying taxes to whom after all this shitloads of normal people on both sides are dead, while elites lose nothing either way.