Programmers, the senior ones who can court good money with relative ease at least, are gonna tend to be pretty well off, which I’m sure is part of it. For them, the concept of “skills gud, pay gud too, something something meritocracy vibes” pretty much applies (even if the reasons it works for them are probably not what they think) and afaik they don’t even have to fight for it with unions much of the time because the demand is high enough and the number of people at their skill level low enough. Entry level seems to be a much different story, having become saturated with all the bootcamp code stuff and “learn to code” rhetoric and such. But like, there’s stuff where it runs on some old programming language that virtually nobody learns or actively uses anymore, so knowing it could give you a lot of leverage.
The moment these types of people were faced with hardship in employment and wages, I’m confident many of them would start questioning a lot of things they never thought much about before. But as long as they are a relatively comfy class in high demand, much of the class struggle can fly under the radar for them and through that, much of the rhetoric that might persuade them to think about imperialism as well.
Yup. It’s haute labor aristocracy. Or was, maybe it’s down a peg nowadays. And usually all STEM, no humanities. No class consciousness. Petit bourgeois stock options aspirations.
By all rights I should be an insufferable turbolib.
The treats are eroding nowadays, though, so they’re likely to get angrier. Maybe a few will develop class consciousness.
Most of these types I interact with are blaming the poor or some specific government “bad apples”. A few do seem to almost “get it”, but still have way too many liberal brainworms and draw some milquetoast or outright reactionary conclusions
It’s an uphill battle trying to instill any sort of class consciousness in these people, as expected due to their material conditions
At least in some Brazilian communities, there were recent news of companies HR making a cartel over hiring new employees. Suddenly people started getting angry at companies and the “market”. I could even see people shitting on liberals and ancaps. I think we are seeing a small rise.
Unfortunately, collective suffering is the best fuel to develop class solidarity. It’s not a desirable thing, but this is what actually happens.
Programmers, the senior ones who can court good money with relative ease at least, are gonna tend to be pretty well off, which I’m sure is part of it. For them, the concept of “skills gud, pay gud too, something something meritocracy vibes” pretty much applies (even if the reasons it works for them are probably not what they think) and afaik they don’t even have to fight for it with unions much of the time because the demand is high enough and the number of people at their skill level low enough. Entry level seems to be a much different story, having become saturated with all the bootcamp code stuff and “learn to code” rhetoric and such. But like, there’s stuff where it runs on some old programming language that virtually nobody learns or actively uses anymore, so knowing it could give you a lot of leverage.
The moment these types of people were faced with hardship in employment and wages, I’m confident many of them would start questioning a lot of things they never thought much about before. But as long as they are a relatively comfy class in high demand, much of the class struggle can fly under the radar for them and through that, much of the rhetoric that might persuade them to think about imperialism as well.
Yup. It’s haute labor aristocracy. Or was, maybe it’s down a peg nowadays. And usually all STEM, no humanities. No class consciousness. Petit bourgeois stock options aspirations.
By all rights I should be an insufferable turbolib.
The treats are eroding nowadays, though, so they’re likely to get angrier. Maybe a few will develop class consciousness.
Most of these types I interact with are blaming the poor or some specific government “bad apples”. A few do seem to almost “get it”, but still have way too many liberal brainworms and draw some milquetoast or outright reactionary conclusions
It’s an uphill battle trying to instill any sort of class consciousness in these people, as expected due to their material conditions
Well I’m very glad that you’re not. :D
At least in some Brazilian communities, there were recent news of companies HR making a cartel over hiring new employees. Suddenly people started getting angry at companies and the “market”. I could even see people shitting on liberals and ancaps. I think we are seeing a small rise.
Unfortunately, collective suffering is the best fuel to develop class solidarity. It’s not a desirable thing, but this is what actually happens.