• goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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    I think what the west deserves for funding a genocidal fascist is entirely up for debate, but that they deserve something is pretty well justified, IMHO

    Are you trying to say the West deserves violence? Advocating for violence isn’t allowed in this community or instance.

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        And what will this justice be? Because the post is saying a massacre.

        I think it’s pretty telling you were advocating for violence, and now you’re forced to backtrack.

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          I wasn’t advocating for anything, I was answering the question about why they were angry with the french.

          And what will this justice be?

          If it were me, i’d say the west should face international sanction and prosecution in the Hague for all leaders/diplomats accused of willfully collaborating with a genocide. Of course, a western-controlled criminal court would never do such a thing, so I guess all we have is BDS and public protest.

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            You italicised something. Implying violence as per the post.

            International sanctions? How would that even work? You can’t sanction over half the world, let alone prosecute them. Why does New Zealand get sanctioned? Why Europe? Why Canada? What about countries that are collaborating in the Ukraine-Russia war? How about congo?

            This is a fantasy

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              I italicized something because I believe the west (including France, in this case) does deserve some kind of punishment for their crimes against Palestine. Obviously I don’t think countries who had nothing to do with this genocide need be punished, but at this point much of the western world has enabled it either by direct material contribution or by a failure to boycott, divest, or sanction Israel for their crimes.

              It’s not up to me to decide what that justice is or how it’s administered, but I don’t think there’s any arguing that there shouldn’t be some measure of justice for Palestine. Unless you believe Israel has done nothing wrong…?

              This is a fantasy

              Yup, that’s all we have, because as you alluded to: this is the west’s global hegemony, we’re just living in it.

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                  Sorry, maybe I’m unfamiliar: how are they involved in Israel’s genocide…? Or is that off-topic?

                  But funny you should mention three of the most sanctioned countries in the world as examples, because what I’m advocating for is just a bit of consistency

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                    Should they also get punishment for their crimes against Palestine? Such as Iran aiding Hamas, Houthis and Hezbollah, effectively instigating more war? And China and Russia’s support of Iran and their mutual exchange of military equipment, intelligence, as well as their extensive propaganda networks?

                    Or is that off-topic?

                    Vaguely off-topic, yes, the post is related more to the tankies wishing more Charlie Hebdo massacres, which I’m glad you’ve disavowed. However, their calls for violence are in reaction to Israel-Palestine. For some reason, they believe France, of all countries, deserves massacres for their stance. Rather funny really, shows their ignorance.

                    Do you believe this is off-topic? If you think it is, we can drop it.

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      Maybe the west should lay off the fucking violence themselves and not bleat when it gets dished back to them once in a while.

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        The West? All of the West? You hear that New Zealand?! You cowards!

        But legitimately, ‘dished back to them?’ – Not very pro-peace of you. Violence begets violence. You should aim for peace, not more war.

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          Point to on the doll where I was advocating violence.

          The reading comprehension of people nowadays is shockingly poor because if it was better, you would have grasped that I was pointing out that it’s fairly hypocritical to go around being a cunt to other countries then cry like a fucking baby when they do the same shit back to you.

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            Maybe the west should lay off the fucking violence themselves and not bleat when it gets dished back to them once in a while.

            I was pointing out that it’s fairly hypocritical to go around being a cunt to other countries then cry like a fucking baby when they do the same shit back to you.

            The reading comprehension of people nowadays is shockingly poor