• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    What does that mean? Do they actually want Charlie Hebdos, as in people that aren’t scared to make irreverent cartoons of Mohammed? Or they want people like Charlie Hebdo to get the same response from the Muslim community? There’s a difference.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      I too am intrigued why tankies would support islamic fundamentalists murdering leftist french journalists… Doesn’t add up… My only guess (beyond the general mental illness tankies display) is that French colonialism fucked up cultures around the world for centuries — across south America, Africa, and Asia — and they still hold political and military control over a few of them… But why cheer islamic terrorism? Why cheer the murder of leftist journos?

      This sub should require links to the offending thread, so users can view in context. Otherwise this could’ve been posted anywhere. I’d expect this screenshot from the likes of Truth Social.

      • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        They’re leftists but not the right kind of leftists. That makes them deserving of being murdered in the tankies’ eyes.

      • goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        Tankies are very simple things. They operate by US bad

        If something, like jihadists, says the US is bad, then the Tankies will support them.

        until…

        BWARK 🔪🐔

        This sub should require links to the offending thread, so users can view in context. Otherwise this could’ve been posted anywhere. I’d expect this screenshot from the likes of Truth Social.

        I also am not allowed to link to the content. I also don’t link to it because then they can edit or change the content.

        • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 month ago

          I was going to reply but yeah you said it

          Gradbears would see a group of Taliban gangraping a 6 year old and say it’s all on US voters for not breaking the status quo

      • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        They are reacting to this comic from ‘Liberation’ newspaper last year about the genocide in Gaza during Ramadan:

        The woman in a hijab is slapping the hand of an emaciated Gazan chasing after a rat, presumably to catch and eat it, and saying “Not before sunset”

        • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 month ago

          Ha, that is funny though. Sad on those people saying the caartoonist should be murdered for it

          On a sidenote: after one year of fighting, most residents of Gaza now believe that the Holy Attack was not worth it. I think that this cartoon rightly mocks the idea of a ‘Holy War’, even if some of its victims never made that choice

            • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 month ago

              This war/famine is a religious construct

              Israelis (in general) are no better or worse in this regard

              • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                edit-2
                1 month ago

                This conflict is as related to religion as a doughnut is related to the cultivation of sugar cane. Impossible to exist as it does without it, but could (and probably would) have arisen under different circumstances and with slight differences without it.

                Reducing this conflict into its religious factions conveniently ignores the cascading history and various material interests that allied imperial states have within the region. It also happens to be an easy way to ideologically frame the conflict about out-of-touch religious fanatics, even though it never would have happened at this scale or on this timeline without the vested contributions of secular liberal states.

                I hope you’re not one of those reactionary evangelists who believe the rapture will come once Israel is destroyed and are therefore aroused by the boundless death of innocent people.

                • nonailsleft@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 month ago

                  The ‘scale of this conflict’ is still very small if you compare it to, say, the Syrian, Yemeni or Sudanese civil wars.

                  Of course you’re one of those reactionary evangelists who’ll claim none of these have anything to do with religion and the people in the region are just puppets waiting for the secularist liberals to pull their strings.

                  Or maybe they’re just donuts

                  • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    1 month ago

                    Of course you’re one of those reactionary evangelists who’ll claim none of these have anything to do with religion and the people in the region are just puppets waiting for the secularist liberals to pull their strings.

                    Religion is only the rationalization of universal self-importance and a justification for unjustifiable violence, but the desire for violent domination is always rooted in an intense desire for material security and liberation.

                    compare it to, say, the Syrian, Yemeni or Sudanese civil wars

                    And yet they each were still ultimately fighting over the control of land, water, and the material production of their countries. The justification may have been couched in religious symbols and significance, but the outcome was still definitively material.


                    Edit:

                    I’ll also add - the existence of secularist liberal states investing in the conflict isn’t an attempt to frame it as an ‘evil secular proxy war’, it is to show that secularist liberals have reason to involve themselves even without a religious justification. It’s a counterexample to the assertion that this conflict is a religious one: if that were true then it leaves more than half the involved parties without any apparent rational to engage in the bloodshed.

    • Possibly linux
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 month ago

      What we really need is Charlie Chapman. He would end the Israeli complicit immediately

    • goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      They want to kill – Or rather, like classic rich college kids, they want others to kill for them. They will thankfully never do anything violent, all bark.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 month ago

        My favorite is when I’m operating off the assumption that a specific tankie user is just a disillusioned member of the working poor, and then they make some casual comment outside of a political thread and reveal that they’re an able-bodied white cishet married homeowner with two incomes, both six-digits, and they’re lecturing others on privilege. Like, fucking what? I’m fucking sitting here counting my calories when I buy groceries so I don’t lose weight, I’m quite literally sitting under a leaky fucking roof with a bucket on the floor to stop it from soaking the carpet, I’m sitting here wondering if I should blow my fucking brains out if healthcare reform is rolled back in this country, I’m sitting here worried about non white-passing members of my family in a white nationalist fascist society, and these bougie (in the colloquial, not Communist, sense) fucks are telling me that my politics are coming from a position of privilege?!

        Some of us actually have something to lose under a fascist regime, like our fucking lives, and these twats swear up and down that the suffering of Minorities and Poors™ are the gateway to the revolution. Other than having zero fucking evidence to back that up, considering the level of suffering inflicted on societies worse off than the West’s without even the murmurs of revolution, it’s real fucking easy to sacrifice someone else’s life for your goals - and of course, those goals being not utilitarian, but simply to achieve some sense of self-satisfaction at ‘opposing’ the ‘Imperial Core’ or whatever the fuck the buzzword of the week is.

        It’s absolute insanity.