I’m tired with this anti-cheat trend. It’s not a confirmation of any sort but still… i don’t want Dark and Darker to be “borked” for gaming on Linux.

With some many companies considering that option, is this far more effective for an anti-cheat ?

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    I’m at the moment quite sick of competetive multiplayergames in general. If you have to resort to malware to thwart cheating in a cost effective way maybe the very Concept of anonymous(as in playing with randoms instead in small communitys on moderated servers) multiplayer itself is flawed

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      Very good take. That’s why i’m mostly playing cooperative games with friends on private server now. The situation is just annoying.

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      Malware implies malicious. It’s not malicious - it’s extremely intrusive.

      Ultimately I don’t give a shit if they have every bit of data on the computer I play games on: there’s nothing there worth looking at. I do my private stuff on my phone. Gaming PC is for discord, games, and making shit for the games.

      So I trust their root kit. They can’t do anything to me there.

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        “I’m OK with companies using incredibly shitty, intrusive software practices because I don’t think they’ll affect me personally” is such a shit take for so many reasons, to name a few:

        1. giving software kernel access, especially when it does not or should not need kernel access, is a security risk, and does open the door for malicious actors to take advantage of vulnerabilities even if the software is not malicious in and of itself

        2. occasionally, intensively intrusive programs like this do break things unintentionally, which can lead to all sorts of fun issues. StarForce DRM is a good example from years past.

        3. just because you do not have anything on your PC that you consider sensitive, does not mean that applies to everyone.

        4. Kernel level anticheat can be bypassed. It’s usually not cheap/easy, but it can and has been done. Meaning, for all of the above concessions you make, there is no real benefit.

        these are just the few I can think of immediately.

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          That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying “I’m ok with Intrusive software practices that provide a tangible benefit (fuck cheaters) because I air gap my shit.”

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            I air gap my shit

            that’s an interesting claim, how do you use online multiplayer games and discord while “air gapped”?

            and again, your “tangible benefit” is rendered largely moot by the fact that you can absolutely get around kernel anticheat. All it really does is keep the skids releasing free cheats on UnknownCheats and MPGH out.

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        Malware just means “Software the user doesn’t want on their system”. Bloatware counts as malware.