A couple of months ago I wrote a single comment under a post about a hateful rage upon israel in c/news, literally I wrote “What could Hamas do to end the violence?”

Nothing else.

And I got immediately banned.

The moderators refuse to answer my messages.

Not even that, they even banned a buddy who spoke up in my defence per message - not per c/news but really just a personal message to be sure.

In 15 years of Reddit my posts got deleted a lot - but NEVER my comments and I got NEVER banned for anything.

If this is what Lemmy wants to be, then be it but without me.

Do you think this is what Lemmy needs to be?

  • Crass Spektakel@lemmy.worldOP
    122·
    20 days ago

    Honestly, given the Moderators background I think they are straw-men by the Axis-of-Evil (Russia, Iran, North-Korea) which took control of all major Lemmy Communities “just in case”

    • Dark Arc@social.packetloss.ggEnglish
      14·
      20 days ago

      Eh, maybe, but that’s quite the claim.

      I don’t think forums really are a great place to have these political discussions at this point. I don’t know how to make a news community that isn’t going to outrage some group of people and become a moderation nightmare of its own given current political division.

      (Edit: more likely they’re well meaning moderators trying to prevent disinformation with their own political tilt on the facts, one which I, and I believe yourself, do not think is an accurate tilt given the rhetoric and behavior of Hamas)

      Also just with regard to moderating controversial stuff, there are some shitty people out there … The Lemmy development chat got bombarded with child porn. The KDE community got bombarded with gore. I’m still trying to get both of the respective images I saw out of my mind.

      Honestly, between the technical issues as the base of lemmy, the leftist tilt, the honestly traumatizing imagery I’ve seen, etc, I’m increasingly considering packing up and moving to blue sky once it gets communities/discussion groups. The fedi-safe stuff has helped a lot, but I’m still in awe that there aren’t more protections in place for lemmy (or matrix public chats).

      • Crass Spektakel@lemmy.worldOP
        212·
        20 days ago

        I don’t think forums really are a great place to have these political discussions at this point.

        I partly agree that big Communities are not good for such discussions. But if a mere comment “what could Hamas do to end the violence?” is a reason for a ban then those communities should just forbid commenting at all.

        And btw, on Reddit there are some actually very positive political groups, e.g. lazerpig and the volt-groups. As long as they don’t get too big and keep a healthy athmosphere this is possible.

        • Dark Arc@social.packetloss.ggEnglish
          22·
          20 days ago

          Maybe; can’t say I’ve ever participated in those or know anything about them.

          In any case, I’ve been having political arguments on social media since at least 2015 … and I’m not convinced it was a good expenditure of time.

          I think there are more reliable places to find news and it’s best discussed with friends and possibly family. Social media is better for hobbies, interests, fun facts, history, and silly things.

          I mean, even this fairly tame discussion we’re having getting down voted speaks volumes really. I share your frustration but I’d invest your energy elsewhere.