French pupil’s father to go on trial for spreading lies that led to teacher’s Islamist beheading
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Eight charged in connection with murder of Samuel Paty in Paris suburbs in 2020

Summary

In October 2020, Samuel Paty, a French teacher, was murdered following a false accusation by a 13-year-old student who claimed he’d shown anti-Muslim bias. The girl had made up the story to cover the fact she had been suspended from school for bad behaviour.

In reality, Paty’s lesson on free speech included optional viewing of Charlie Hebdo cartoons, but he hadn’t excluded anyone. The student’s story triggered a social media campaign led by her father, who, along with others, is now on trial for inciting hatred and connections to Paty’s attacker, an 18-year-old radicalized Chechen.

The school will be named the Samuel Paty School from next year.

  • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nlEnglish
    162·
    2 months ago

    Wow, just tell everyone that you are a sociopath with no conscience or empathy?

    If you have no morality without pedophiles and a global child abuse rings threatening you with torture for eternity, then you are a horrible person all around with or without religion.

    • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
      211·
      2 months ago

      I do not have paedophiles and child abuse rings threatening to torture me forever, what are you on about

      • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nlEnglish
        62·
        2 months ago

        Abrahamic religious organizations are notoriously and with very few exceptions, hosts to child abuse rings and shuffle pedophiles consistently around their organizations when it comes out in their community. See: every Catholic church scandal of the last 100 years and further, and hundreds of protestant church scandals in the past decades.

        They threaten that if you don’t follow their book and do what they say that their deity demands, you will be tortured in hell for all eternity.

        There is no hate like christian love.

        https://apnews.com/article/us-news-sexual-abuse-by-clergy-religion-crime-bf69964182bf4fd1bf3fee1789abef0b

        https://www.bishop-accountability.org/AtAGlance/USCCB_Yearly_Data_on_Accused_Priests.htm

        https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/254393/illinois-attorney-general-report-sexual-abuse

        https://eu.augustachronicle.com/story/news/2022/05/26/list-alleged-sex-abusers-southern-baptists-churches-made-public/9946627002/

        & https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/southern-baptist-leaders-stonewalled-sex-abuse-survivors-report-indicates

        https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-church-sexual-abuse-settlement-8d04f5c8da061462f04be59b73cc3e92

        And hundreds more of individual cases here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PastorArrested/

        Not even counting the sexual predator pastors and clergy shielded by the church

        • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
          27·
          2 months ago

          I do not love an organisation. I love Jesus Christ. This is irrelevant to me.

          • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nlEnglish
            2·
            2 months ago

            Ah yes, the classic child-abuser-apologist line that every “christian” brings out when confronted about the abuse of their revered leaders that they absolutely refuse to condemn before they go back to church to give money directly to the abusers every week.

            Do you love Jesus or have convinced yourself that you love him because you are so afraid of hell? Very Stockholm syndrome-esque. Take kids during their developmental years and tell them that “people” go to hell and are tortured forever unless they love Jesus and follow sky-daddy’s rules (and by extension, the rules of the church). Then they are told that over and over until they are brought to a special ceremony to declare their love.

            Or I guess you have never once been to church and never a single time been told that people go to hell if they don’t love Jesus and accept him into their hearts? I guess you just read the entire bible without any external influence at all and converted after your brain was fully developed after 25 or so, again, with nobody telling you about it. But I guess when you lie, you can just ask Daddy for forgiveness and you get off with no consequences! Tons of harm, no foul.

            Either way, I guess I am glad because it is the only thing stopping you from rampaging around murdering, raping people and animals, stealing, torturing, maiming, abusing, and whatever else you apparently so strongly desire to do.

            • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
              1·
              2 months ago

              Ah yes, the classic child-abuser-apologist line that every “christian” brings out when confronted about the abuse of their revered leaders that they absolutely refuse to condemn before they go back to church to give money directly to the abusers every week.

              My church doesn’t have child abusers that I’m aware of. If they did, I’d leave. I left a different church, partially because they paid licencing fees to Hillsong, which had several scandals.

              “people” go to hell and are tortured forever unless they love Jesus and folow sky-daddy’s rules (and by extension, the rules of the church).

              God issues justice, and all are sinful. Only Jesus can save you. Not a Church or following rules. Church is where I receive the sacraments, meet with other believers, worship, and help build God’s kingdom.

              But I guess when you lie, you can just ask Daddy for forgiveness and you get off with no consequences! Tons of harm, no foul.

              That’s contradictory. You were upset with God’s justice, now you’re upset with His mercy.

              If you want to suffer the consequences of your actions, you are welcome to do so. But don’t act like He didn’t take it on for you.