The thing is, you advocated the approach the dems went for, and lost with. All of the people complaining about Palestine did not. And despite your claims they generally did not believe Trump would have been better.
I’m not saying Palestine cost them the election, the problem is much bigger, but perhaps standing for something or especially standing for what is RIGHT would have made a difference. Turnout could have been the killer and that could have had an impact.
Anyway, I don’t really get what caused it but I feel for you all. I don’t even live there and it fucking sucks even for me. Shitty day, many more coming.
Trump voters and possible Trump voters are either stupid, racist or not really thinking things through. That is all bad. But is it so confusing for you that people expect the dems to actually manage this situation and genuinely appeal to voters rather than simply expecting voters to stop making bad decisions? What good will blaming the voter do? NONE.
It might feel good, and I can understand that. You’re allowed to be mad at them. But they are normal people worried about their grocery bill and (probably) not making detailed analyses of party platforms. The democratic leaders are the ones who are supposed to win at politics by appealing to them.
It has to do good to be useful. It’s accurate to say the voters are at fault for the outcome of the election, it’s just so obvious it’s downright brain dead and so useless that if analysis stops there it will result in a red 2028 too.
The people who need to improve that we can actually effect change in are the DNC leadership. If you don’t see that you are as blind as the MAGA crowd.
By your weird logic the election results cannot be real because they will result in evil
Yeah when your summary of someone’s logic is this stupid it’s safe to say you have probably misunderstood something.
You’re sitting here a) as someone I 100% blame for this outcome. You got people to stay home, full stop. There’s zero doubt about it.
You are utterly delusional. I never once advocated for not voting or voting for Trump. Never. That’s why you haven’t found an example of me doing it. If by criticising US support for a genocide I am somehow to blame for this outcome I don’t know what to tell you. I will never let that slide and nobody with morals should let it slide either.
I would’ve never considered not voting in the past but here I am wondering what the fucking point is. Burn the US to the ground. It’s happening against my will so why fucking fight it.
Despite that, this is really sad dude. Take a break. Be with your loved ones. I really hope things get better.
The worst thing is someone who is so cynical and unhappy that they can’t tell genuine belief and genuine concern from some evil ploy on behalf of their enemies.
If you don’t believe anything I say I guess there really is no point in this discussion. In any case, look after yourself.
As I said, I’m not American or in America and I still get it. Last time the day Trump got elected and this time so far I have gotten no work done because it’s just so fucking miserable
The thing is, you advocated the approach the dems went for, and lost with. All of the people complaining about Palestine did not. And despite your claims they generally did not believe Trump would have been better.
I’m not saying Palestine cost them the election, the problem is much bigger, but perhaps standing for something or especially standing for what is RIGHT would have made a difference. Turnout could have been the killer and that could have had an impact.
Anyway, I don’t really get what caused it but I feel for you all. I don’t even live there and it fucking sucks even for me. Shitty day, many more coming.
And here you are again. got any more complaints about Democrats and none about the voters?
Trump voters and possible Trump voters are either stupid, racist or not really thinking things through. That is all bad. But is it so confusing for you that people expect the dems to actually manage this situation and genuinely appeal to voters rather than simply expecting voters to stop making bad decisions? What good will blaming the voter do? NONE.
It might feel good, and I can understand that. You’re allowed to be mad at them. But they are normal people worried about their grocery bill and (probably) not making detailed analyses of party platforms. The democratic leaders are the ones who are supposed to win at politics by appealing to them.
Why does something have to do good to be accurate? By your weird logic the election results cannot be real because they will result in evil
It has to do good to be useful. It’s accurate to say the voters are at fault for the outcome of the election, it’s just so obvious it’s downright brain dead and so useless that if analysis stops there it will result in a red 2028 too.
The people who need to improve that we can actually effect change in are the DNC leadership. If you don’t see that you are as blind as the MAGA crowd.
Yeah when your summary of someone’s logic is this stupid it’s safe to say you have probably misunderstood something.
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You are utterly delusional. I never once advocated for not voting or voting for Trump. Never. That’s why you haven’t found an example of me doing it. If by criticising US support for a genocide I am somehow to blame for this outcome I don’t know what to tell you. I will never let that slide and nobody with morals should let it slide either.
Despite that, this is really sad dude. Take a break. Be with your loved ones. I really hope things get better.
Nothing worse than fraudulent concern
The worst thing is someone who is so cynical and unhappy that they can’t tell genuine belief and genuine concern from some evil ploy on behalf of their enemies.
If you don’t believe anything I say I guess there really is no point in this discussion. In any case, look after yourself.
As I said, I’m not American or in America and I still get it. Last time the day Trump got elected and this time so far I have gotten no work done because it’s just so fucking miserable