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      The blue genocidal party lost just as I told them they would if they didn’t listen and stop doing genocide. So I guess I’ve been vindicated in my demands they stop.

      Do you think this will have an impact on the actual genocide, though? Do you feel like you’ve done enough? Can you fairly and honestly say this is something you care about if this is your only action regarding this problem?

      Are you really going to debate bro me on whether I assumed you to be a white male or not?

      Yes, this is definitely what I want to do with my afternoon (this is actually not sarcastic). Did I remove any relevant context? Please elaborate if you care to continue this surreal tangent.

      You placed “white males” as a standalone group in your comment.

      I did.

      white males are not seperate from other groupings of people

      dismissing the struggles of other groups

      Any chance on giving that statement second thought? I think you’ll find something interesting.

      Oh, you just are a debate bro

      I’m unfamiliar with the term. Maybe if you clarify I can tell you if I feel identified with the definition.

      this is when you, sarcastically, pushed the white male victimhood narrative.

      Erm… So by me suggesting their vote was lost, i implied they were victims? I’m sorry but I disagree.

      my rebuttal of the white male victimhood narrative signals to you that I support white males being victims

      No. I think you may have a fixation with victimhood and its implications on the value and humanity of people, and I think you’ve pushed this fixation in every point during this exchange, projecting it into my arguments.

      rank white males at the top of a victimization totem pole.

      This is another example of the former. You seem to be under the impression that victimization is a ranking system.

      Maybe I should clarify. Under my perspective, everyone deserves to be listened to, have their humanity accepted and treated with respect (even in situations of conflict and mutual destruction). You, me, white males, bolivians, jews, palestines, fundies, tankies, billionaires, criminals, war criminals, nazis, hitler, genghis khan. Everyone.

      The reason behind this is that without that basic extension of empathy, all possibilities of consensus are lost before a conversation even begins. Do I always extend these basic forms of empathy to everyone? No, sometimes I’m a dick, but I do try.

      My original point was about the consequences of the lack of willingness to convey these basic forms of empathy to white males in the election (this doesn’t imply i consider them victims. I don’t.)

      What I’m currently trying to convey now is that victimization is not a ranking system, friend. And voting or not voting for someone is not an effective course of action to solve anything you truly care about.

      I’m sorry people you care about are suffering. <3

      Edit: I don’t think I did, and I honestly have no use for information regarding your sex, gender or ethnicity.

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          18 days ago

          Thank you for taking the time to reply to my comment thoughtfully. I understand our disagreements better now, and I apologize if I came across as arguing in bad faith. I’m sure you understand my perspective better now, and I appreciate you addressing it with respect.

          Peace to you and all those you care about.