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Summary

Bernie Sanders criticizes the Democratic Party for neglecting the working class, leading to their recent election losses.

He highlights issues like economic inequality, job displacement, healthcare costs, and foreign policy as key concerns for the American people.

Sanders questions whether the Democratic leadership will address these issues or remain beholden to big money interests.

  • minnow@lemmy.world
    121·
    15 days ago

    Completely disagree, a person doesn’t have to understand what fascism is to be a fascist or indifferent to fascism, any more than they need to be an expert on dogs to not kick or oppose kicking one.

    • Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
      6·
      15 days ago

      Actually I changed my mind and disagree with my other comment LOL.

      I still find it hard to call an extremely ignorant uneducated person a fascist, who is being manipulated by an actual fascist leader. They’re just potentially being manipulated. The dumber they are, the easier to manipulate.

      Some or even many of these people conceivably would change their stances and choices if provided with lots of education. Some.

      • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        3·
        15 days ago

        Ignorance ultimately doesn’t excuse or justify their actions. Your beliefs aren’t as important as your actions. Not to say that they should be dragged behind the shed and shot, but that actions have consequences and they need to be held accountable for theirs. If somebody votes for a fascist leader and supports a fascist political party, they’re at least collaborators in fascism.

        You have to treat these people like they’re in a cult, because that’s what’s happening here. Trump’s rhetoric this past year has been eerily similar to Jim Jones near the time that they all drank the Flavor-Aid (almost identical, even). And when dealing with cultists, it’s important to remember that not all of them can be saved. After a certain point, even if they recognize that they’re in the wrong, most cultists will double down rather than admit that they were wrong - because they’re in too deep and to admit that they were fooled would be to admit that their entire life has been wrong and that what they did wasn’t justified.

        Hope that you can make them realize why they’re in the wrong, but be prepared to grab the knife that they might pull on you. Because that’s probably the more likely scenario.

      • Maeve@kbin.earth
        1·
        14 days ago

        A mage once said that in mistaking poison for wine, the mistake doesn’t forgive and save your life. Bad paraphrase.

    • Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
      41·
      15 days ago

      Kindly, I disagree again lol.

      Indifferent:

      Having no particular interest or concern; apathetic

      I still argue you need to understand it to be indifferent about it specifically. However, I do believe these people are indifferent to having a desire to learn what fascism actually is and actual historical contexts.

      But we can agree to disagree 😀

      Edit: oops “to be a fascist” yes I’ll agree with you on that one sorry. They can be fascists without actually knowing that they are and how to define it.