Why are you lying? The article links to a google patents page, under the Japanese patents. There are US versions of these patents available to view, which the article didn’t link to.
JP7545191 is a japanese patent. You can click one of the little blue US buttons to see the American equivalent. The same is true of the other two patents in question
The court systems processed them on different dates. You’re the one being belligerent and incorrect. Condescend on someone else, learn to read the stuff you link or at least make an attempt to understand it lol
Japan and the US have seperate requirements (first to file VS first to invent) for initially accepting a patent. Just because you can see them both on the USPTO website doesn’t mean the patents are for both the US and Japan. In Japan, you can legally oppose a product before the patent is granted - in the US, that doesn’t fly.
If you can’t piece together what my point was with this info, you should probably stop commenting on patent cases until you do understand. You quite literally linked info showing the dates of the US patents that are after the release of palworld. Either you didn’t read the thing you linked or you have some warped perception of patents being global.
That’s what I’m trying to do, and the best you can manage to explain to me is “actually you’re wrong.” You have time to type out three paragraphs, but not enough time to explain that the patents the page links to, despite being apparently (as far as I can discern) filed with the Japanese patent office, are not Japanese patents?
I admit I don’t really know what I’m talking about. The patent system is obtuse and virtually impossible to understand. But as far as I can tell, the patents referred to by the article are patents that were filed with the Japanese office. Can you explain what I’m getting wrong?
You quite literally linked info showing the dates of the US patents that are after the release of palworld.
I’m aware of that. The person you were responding to said “Look at the actual patents, though. They list 2021 as the application date in Japan.” Do you want to explain why the website apparently shows an initial application date of 2021 in Japan? Maybe the google patents page is misleading. Maybe it’s showing a related but not equivalent patent.
I really don’t care about the process or validity of suing, nor do I care about the actual application date. I just want to know why it looks a lot like the patents the site links to are Japanese patents, and you’re insisting that they’re not.
You didn’t read the article well and you didn’t look up any info on patents whatsoever before jumping to “Why are you lying…?”. You have a TON of unknown unknowns about the topic and it’s actually impossible to explain it all while I’m on the toilet (which is where you’re receiving this information from), but here’s another few relevant tidbits:
The US patent office will help sustain foreign patents with a few requirements based on a few treaties, one of which is that the foreign patent was filed less than a year prior. Because the USPTO ostensibly exists to protect art made by artists, you can file an application for a patent within a year of filing a similar application in a different country. These were not recent enough. Another route is to apply for many countries at once through the patent cooperation treaty, which nintendo also did not do.
The person I was responding to was acting like the Japanese dates were a “gotcha” to the article. The article correctly states the US patent dates and links them, the related JP patents happen to be on the same page (but you have to click off of it to go there), and they have different application dates listed than the ones detailed in the article. It’s literally not the patents being talked about in the article. In fact, the article goes into detail about the timing and how it’s being used in the case: nintendo is seeking injunction money based on the time their patent was active in the US up to the time the suit was filed. You and the other poster are having a critical lack of information error, and a lot of that info is in the article. You confused yourself reading a site you don’t understand outside the article.
The patent system sucks ass and exists almost wholly to protect megacorporations at this point. Copyright, likewise, has fallen into a state of disarray as we continue to write laws that are impossible to enforce for the individual without an entire legal team to guide them. While I personally think the whole system needs a rework, we are probably a long way as a society (societies, really) from identifying the problem or making meaningful change. In the meantime, learning how (and why) corporations “punch down” like this legally is our only option. Here’s hoping this case does not go to a jury; I basically only see uninformed schlock from general discussion about patents and absolutely no initiative to learn about the patent system. It is almost never used to protect the creation of an individual and the public does not understand that was the original intent.
Look at the actual patents, though. They list 2021 as the application date in Japan.
The patents being referred to by the article are not Japanese patents. Did you know Japan has its own court system?
Why are you lying? The article links to a google patents page, under the Japanese patents. There are US versions of these patents available to view, which the article didn’t link to.
JP7545191 is a japanese patent. You can click one of the little blue US buttons to see the American equivalent. The same is true of the other two patents in question
Yeah, and take a look at the dates in what you linked.
What do the dates in them have to do with you getting that basic piece of information wrong? If you have a point to make, make it.
The court systems processed them on different dates. You’re the one being belligerent and incorrect. Condescend on someone else, learn to read the stuff you link or at least make an attempt to understand it lol
Japan and the US have seperate requirements (first to file VS first to invent) for initially accepting a patent. Just because you can see them both on the USPTO website doesn’t mean the patents are for both the US and Japan. In Japan, you can legally oppose a product before the patent is granted - in the US, that doesn’t fly.
If you can’t piece together what my point was with this info, you should probably stop commenting on patent cases until you do understand. You quite literally linked info showing the dates of the US patents that are after the release of palworld. Either you didn’t read the thing you linked or you have some warped perception of patents being global.
That’s what I’m trying to do, and the best you can manage to explain to me is “actually you’re wrong.” You have time to type out three paragraphs, but not enough time to explain that the patents the page links to, despite being apparently (as far as I can discern) filed with the Japanese patent office, are not Japanese patents?
I admit I don’t really know what I’m talking about. The patent system is obtuse and virtually impossible to understand. But as far as I can tell, the patents referred to by the article are patents that were filed with the Japanese office. Can you explain what I’m getting wrong?
I’m aware of that. The person you were responding to said “Look at the actual patents, though. They list 2021 as the application date in Japan.” Do you want to explain why the website apparently shows an initial application date of 2021 in Japan? Maybe the google patents page is misleading. Maybe it’s showing a related but not equivalent patent.
I really don’t care about the process or validity of suing, nor do I care about the actual application date. I just want to know why it looks a lot like the patents the site links to are Japanese patents, and you’re insisting that they’re not.
You didn’t read the article well and you didn’t look up any info on patents whatsoever before jumping to “Why are you lying…?”. You have a TON of unknown unknowns about the topic and it’s actually impossible to explain it all while I’m on the toilet (which is where you’re receiving this information from), but here’s another few relevant tidbits:
The US patent office will help sustain foreign patents with a few requirements based on a few treaties, one of which is that the foreign patent was filed less than a year prior. Because the USPTO ostensibly exists to protect art made by artists, you can file an application for a patent within a year of filing a similar application in a different country. These were not recent enough. Another route is to apply for many countries at once through the patent cooperation treaty, which nintendo also did not do.
The person I was responding to was acting like the Japanese dates were a “gotcha” to the article. The article correctly states the US patent dates and links them, the related JP patents happen to be on the same page (but you have to click off of it to go there), and they have different application dates listed than the ones detailed in the article. It’s literally not the patents being talked about in the article. In fact, the article goes into detail about the timing and how it’s being used in the case: nintendo is seeking injunction money based on the time their patent was active in the US up to the time the suit was filed. You and the other poster are having a critical lack of information error, and a lot of that info is in the article. You confused yourself reading a site you don’t understand outside the article.
The patent system sucks ass and exists almost wholly to protect megacorporations at this point. Copyright, likewise, has fallen into a state of disarray as we continue to write laws that are impossible to enforce for the individual without an entire legal team to guide them. While I personally think the whole system needs a rework, we are probably a long way as a society (societies, really) from identifying the problem or making meaningful change. In the meantime, learning how (and why) corporations “punch down” like this legally is our only option. Here’s hoping this case does not go to a jury; I basically only see uninformed schlock from general discussion about patents and absolutely no initiative to learn about the patent system. It is almost never used to protect the creation of an individual and the public does not understand that was the original intent.