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The NYT, BBC, CNN, among others emphasized the attacks on Israeli fans, while minimizing the anti-Arab racism that seemingly provoked much of the violence.
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Amsterdam banned all protests for a week. Many people went anyway. Love ♥️ this sign!
Radio-Canada coverage and my reaction:
“The Israeli sang some racist songs and burned Palestinian flags then got beat up”
“Ok, good… They’re mentioning it…”
“Here are some comments from Amsterdam residents.”
[Insert four comments blaming the residents and not the Israeli]
“Dangit!”
The news I saw made it clear it was a bunch of fanatical “ultras” football fucks that saw some Palestine flags and started damaging property willy-nilly to take them down.
These bunch of shitheads call themselves fans, but all they know is to cause trouble and make a mess.
Not only that. They were chanting a bunch of horrible songs about arabs and palestinians. They also whistled and yelled through a minute of silence before the football match for people that died. They even attacked a middle eastern taxi driver, dragged him out of the car and beat him up.
The whole thing has been pissing me off…
Buried or omitted in most accounts was verified evidence of anti-Arab racism that had occurred prior to these events, including footage of Maccabi Tel Aviv fans tearing down Palestinian flags, attacking taxi drivers, and chanting explicitly racist slogans like “Death to the Arabs” and “Let the IDF fuck the Arabs.”
Minimizing anti-Arab racism and the provocations by Maccabi Tel Aviv fans was not subtle. The BBC’s extensive live blog of the unfolding events quoted 13 Israeli and Jewish sources while allowing just one or two alternative perspectives. Injuries to Israeli fans received detailed documentation and personal accounts, while the impact of racist abuse on local Arab and Muslim residents went largely unexplored.
Those chants were certainly racist and violent Especially the chant “Why is there no school in Gaza? There are no children left there.”
You must use very alternative sources, because all the mainstream coverage I saw was six paragraphs of “poor Israelis attacked by Arab mobs” and one paragraph of “prior to these attacks, the Israelis went around doing hate crimes”.
There were two groups of shitheads. Some people of one group will be prosecuted by the extreme right government party, the other group was moved back to Israel in emergency.
But I want to repeat: there were multiple groups of shitheads
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So include them in your post that otherwise just proves the point of the article?
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The article included several unsourced quotes from some kind of chat groups which are also potentially translated, no way to verify. And then they included a random unsourced screenshot which has “translation” added on top it, removing original content that would help verify authenticity. That’s not proof you claim it to be… Not only basic fact checking disproves it, but article itself quotes Uber spokesperson indicating there were no reports.
A story on how the claim that was rejected by Uber. And Israeli PR machine trying to make something out of nothing.
An Uber spokesperson tweeted saying they were “shocked to hear of this abhorrent violence” and were supporting Dutch authorities with their investigation.
They claimed, “there were no reported incidents of violence or antisemitism on the Uber app,” and did not respond to allegations that drivers perpetrated physical violence.
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Well, since they are cooperating with Dutch authorities, lying wouldn’t be in their best self-interest. And so far nobody proven otherwise.
Random claims are not evidence.
EDIT: Same issue with AP article, no sources, just random unsourced quote.
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I’d like to see that. I have been following everything closely, and a lot of rumors are used as truths. From both sides… can you post some links?
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I asked for the screenshots, none given. These look like doctored communications, the maker did not realize these (mostly uneducated) people do not chat in English?
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Also here. I asked for the screenshots, none given. These are clearly manipulated.
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Doesn’t mean the Israelis were innocent
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Calling this a pogrom is like calling my stubbed toe a war crime buddy
The world starts to see through your bullshit. You cannot manipulate the truth forever you know
Blablabla
Do you deny the genocide perpetrated by the IDF?
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“Dense urban environment” jezz I wonder why it’s so dense lmao it’s a ghetto.
“They didn’t kill enough people” is a disgusting way to deny genocide.
The IDF could easily kill ten times as much per day, if they wanted to. If the IDF wanted to genocide Gaza, we would be at a million deaths at least by now.
“It wasn’t intentional”
Remember that Palestinian terrorists managed to kill more than 1000 Israelis in one day with mostly small arms
“It was self defense”
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_denial
“It wasn’t or isn’t ‘genocide,’ because …” They may enter definitional or rhetorical argumentation.
The ICJ have received threat from the United States, who literally threatened to invade the haag. Their words cannot be trusted anymore. Anybody would bow to this kind of pressure.
Meanwhile, the israeli, with their yank, german and british complicity, attacked Irish peacekeeper. If there was any justice, the rest of europe would attack the axis of evil (germany, britain, USA).
Today it has become clear (see mayor/police report) that these messages appeared on the day of the game after the attack on a taxi driver, and not weeks in advance.
I request you to remove that lie.
