In the days after Donald Trump was elected president, a South Korean feminist movement is capturing young women’s interest on social media.

Summary

Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.

The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.

The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.

  • protist@mander.xyzEnglish
    10920·
    4 days ago

    I don’t think anyone involved thinks she’s talking about every single young man. Well, except you, of course

    • njm1314@lemmy.world
      5316·
      4 days ago

      Now he’s just worried that they’re talking about him. Which they probably are considering his immediate defensive reaction.

      • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5710·
        4 days ago

        Jesus Fucking Christ, do we literally have to have women say things like:

        “Young men – not all, just some, well in some areas most, but a lot of young men – expect…”

        This tiptoeing bullshit to not anger some fragile men is insane. I lived as a straight man for over 40 years and this new idea that men are somehow put upon whenever a woman brings up being objectified, or has an issues with interactions with /takes a breath some, but not all, just a large amount, enough to be traumatizing, particularly as it’s systemic to the patriarchy, men.

        This is ridiculous semantic bullshit in response to women feeling like objects and pushing back.

        We’re better than this, and I’m tired of watching us act absolutely horrible whenever women point out systemic, extremely frequent issues they have with men, and have to inch around it so as to not break our fragile egos.

        • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          Women need to say, “Well, not every man is a rapist, but every person who raped me was a man, amd when I tried to speak up, almost every man told me he needed more evidence, that was an extreme claim that could ruin that man’s life, and when I tried to call police, they were made also of men who also rape and commit domestic violence at high rates, and when I went to court the judge was a Trump appointeee… So I guess really no men are rapists because the system doesn’t allow us to label them. Or maybe that makes all of you dangerous.”

          • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            I teared up a bit reading your comment, I’m so sorry you all go through this, and continue to go through this.

            The worst part is a lot of the men saying this shit, even here in this thread, consider themselves ‘Leftist’. They know it’s the wealthy causing fighting amongst the poors to distract, and yet still these men fall for it. They think there’s some ‘women’s agenda’ coming for them and never once look back and think to themselves ‘wow, thank god they want equality and not revenge.’

        • luciferofastora
          91·
          4 days ago

          I agree. It’s like the whole “Not all men” deal: nitpicking the details of the phrasing instead of tackling the root issue. You’re only fighting those symptoms that affect you directly, not the root cause.

          The day I have someone yelling in my face that I’m to blame for some other man’s rape is the day I’ll argue about that issue. Until then, let’s focus on the actual problem: In this case (some) young men being pieces of garbage.

        • shiftymccool@programming.dev
          310·
          3 days ago

          Just the word “most” or “some” would avoid this whole conversation. Why does it have to come to this every time?

          • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
            62·
            3 days ago

            Why does it have to come to this every time?

            I don’t know, why do men require people to use extra words not to hurt their feelings?

            “Young men expect sex, but they also want us to not be able to have access to abortion,” Thomas told The Post. “They can’t have both. Young women don’t want to be intimate with men who don’t fight for women’s rights; it’s showing they don’t respect us.”

            See, they even included parts like that, and still people are here whining about it.

            • intensely_human@lemm.ee
              1·
              2 days ago

              My feelings aren’t hurt by the presence of people who hate me.

              But I will call a spade a spade. A person too lazy to add the word “some” to their statement does hate all men. Can’t be bothered with a syllable to honor them, and that’s hate.

          • TSG_Asmodeus (he, him)@lemmy.worldEnglish
            10·
            4 days ago

            Just the ones who conform to my incredibly contemptuous description of them (a majority of white women apparently).

            Going to need an attribution there, champ.

            • JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works
              416·
              4 days ago

              What kind of attribution do I need? I’m only talking about the ones who fit the description. Seems to me like trump voters fit that description but hey, if I’m wrong no biggy. After all I am only talking about the ones that do. Can’t you just infer that?