because real wages has not kept up with ever rising inflation

this one is just a demonstrably true fact, although you could argue the problem, in both directions, prices of goods are too high, pay is too low comparatively to goods. etc…

The working class is certainly the most affected and even experienced lower growth in real wage.

it depends on how you define the working class, and several other factors, but generally lower income households are more pressured by economic woes. And the US population voting people like trump in, who are objectively, the WRONG person, are quite literally, shooting themselves in the foot. The US historically has had a much more progressive income tax, than it does now.

Although this is also ignoring things like quality of life as well.

Prices of less valuable consumer goods have gone down, but the basic essentials and health care keeps going up and up.

it’s not clear at all what this is measuring, if this accounts for inflation properly, or if this even accounts for differences in service availability. But there are a lot more things accessible to us now, than there was 20 years ago, medically. People could be getting on aggregate, more treatment now, than they were previously. It’s extremely unclear what any of this represents.

The prices of food and other essentials going up does track. Compared to consumer goods and electronics where manufacturing only gets significantly easier year over year, leading to more and more accessible technology.

overall inflation has decreased since the pandemic but basic essentials has not.

inflation is a delta (change in % increase) where as actual goods are simply an value. Inflation going down doesn’t mean the price of goods goes down, that’s impossible, that’s not how inflation works. Unless you’re referring to some kind of magical “essential item” inflation that exists now, and didn’t previously.

Those with higher income may not feel the pinch, but the working class and many in the lower middle class certainly does.

people keep saying this, but people still manage to buy things like food, goods and services just fine, in fact if you look at black friday spending this year, it seems pretty constant with what it’s been over the past few years as well.

These people are brainwashed and hoodwinked to blame the wrong people like immigrants, minorities and lgbt, while the monied class gets away with it.

yeah, and they keep voting for monied people like trump, like fucking dumbasses. What do you want me to say here?

It’s not Trump apologism-- it’s reality check.

a reality check by pointing a loaded gun at your head pulling the trigger, and hoping it jams.

Yeah great fucking idea.

The left and liberals should get out of their bubble, because they are doing the inverse of being hoodwinked by convincing them to look down on the working class as well.

please demonstrate an example of liberals/lefties looking down on the working class, i myself am quite naturally a working class person, i like doing work, though i am also relatively highly educated. That’s just the nature of me, and i think humanity in general. If you don’t pursue education, and knowledge, you can only blame but yourself for the lack of it. It’s not hard to educate yourself on politics, there’s plenty of great reading, especially if you live in america, like all of the founding papers that were written throughout the years, plenty of great legal scholars have written good works, plenty of economists have written good books, people like warren buffet exists and have things you can learn from. It’s not hard, you just have to apply your ability to learn.

Yes, one can keep calling the working-class racist or bigoted

i don’t think anybody is doing that, i think people are calling the republican party largely racist and bigoted, which is demonstrably true. Just look at the deportation rhetoric, or the objectively racist statements about Haitians eating dogs. In fact if any group here is demonstrating an explicit aversion to another political group, it’s the right. They HATE the left, and anybody on the left, while the left does have people that hate the right, the right did inevitably do this to themselves, and they have nobody to blame but themselves for it. Even then a lot of liberals and lefties are more than willing to engage in good faith with republicans, like me. The primary problem is that republicans struggle massively to engage in a good faith manner, by virtue of living in delusion.

but they are the ones who have once voted for the left but now keep voting far-right.

yeah, and they voted for biden overwhelmingly, who was an objectively good president who actually supported the working class, through things like unionization and labor rights, as well as various funding packages for things like the IRA and the infrastructure bill. Including significant tax breaks, primarily intended to benefit people of lower economic income status.

And yet these are the same people who voted for trump, someone who only cares about himself, and pretends to care about the people. It’s not hard to see that the voter base is largely uneducated and incompetent when it comes to politics, just look at history throughout the world.

Are you also aware that California put anti-homeless spikes and other deterents on areas where the vagabonds sleep?

literally nobody likes these polices, they are extremely unpopular.

I’m sure many of those homeless folks came from poorer states to look for a job in California

i dont think this is even statistically supported, i would expect most homeless people be native population, at least as of recent capacity. Poor people don’t exactly have the luxury of being able to move, otherwise they wouldn’t be poor. Most of the poor population in rural states is stuck where they live because they don’t have the money to be able to move anywhere else.

also a lot of homeless people have issues with drugs, addiction and mental health, so they aren’t exactly the average working class, they’re the bottom of the barrel, cast out by society at large.

which is hosted by a highly-esteemed professor and political analyst who has been invited by international news outlets for interviews including The Guardian, BBC, ABC, and Al Jazeera.

interesting, you don’t happen to be eastern european do you? Zizek is iirc, and he is also broadly known to be a philosopher, rather than a political individual, granted some of those things tend to apply across the pond so to speak.

There is no longer a version of penny auction in this generation. As in, there is no longer a class-solidarity that existed during the Depression era.

i assume you’re talking about the depression era farm auctions, not the modern incantation which is horrid. There are two primary reasons, one, finance is a lot more complex, and people very rarely own their own homes these days, things are a lot more centralized as well. And two, there hasn’t been a need, remember during the great depression that the entire economy was fucked. This was the primary reason penny auctions were able to happen, that and lack of actual regulation.

there is little appetite to approve alleviating the cost of living and housing crisis, and consign the working class as dumb and bigots, instead of realising these have been brainwashed to scapegoat the innocent.

Kamalas campaign literally ran on the housing crisis, but ok.

but the $25,000 downpayment

isn’t this explicitly for first time home buyers? Where it would be a fairly significant value of the house? even like 1/10th of the value would be significant, especially for a down payment.

American house prices are these days.

do you think the trump admin tariffs on canadian import lumber have anything to do with the wild housing market we’re seeing now? I do.

Why not increase the federal wage instead?

what were all the first time home buyer credits for, all the tax breaks, the stuff like the IRA and the infra bill, and all of the child care credits as well? Are those not helpful? Most jobs today aren’t working at federal minimum wage, that’s not really going to do much, and economically it’s questionable whether it would be impactful in a productive manner. It might even make things like food SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive, a big concern to you, apparently.

But what have the Democrats promised as alternative in the former blue wall to dis-incentivise working in the fossil fuel industry?

why would you de-incentivize this when it’s broadly popular? Wouldn’t that be a bad campaign move?

What have the Democrats promised to replace the old manufacturing jobs with?

brother they’re already gone, and again, the IRA, the infra bill, VA benefits, all the tax breaks. Trump is only going to make this a worse position arguably.

Can you really blame the working class for siding the Republicans with promise of re-shoring more jobs and putting tariffs on imports?

yes, because tariffs are in every sense of the word, in every example that’s ever happened, it doesn’t fucking work. I cannot stress this hard enough, tariffs have literally never worked.

There needs to be another Roosevelt

that person was biden.