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I would put win8 lower and win10 as a slight rise but not up to win 7 territory and then plummet. osx should plummet with the iosification of it.
Saying Windows 10 is worse than Windows 8 is just nonsense. Saying macOS is worse now than 5 years ago is… just dumb? And the colour scheme doesn’t make any sense, why is the red at macOS literally higher than the green?
maybe because it represents the drop.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I think 11 is pretty great from a technical standpoint. The only real issue I have is modern standby…I miss having laptops that actually go to sleep and aren’t dead a day later. But that’s a fight I’ve given up on.
Now…the ads, MS accounts requirements, tracking and telemetry, the pre-installed bloat like News (a glorified clickbait aggregator), Movies and TV, Office, etc. make what is technically fine into a garbage experience.
Used to be able to create a list of file path shortcuts that are visible when you right click the file explorer icon pinned to the taskbar. The shortcuts I made in a previous version of windows are still present and functional. But it can’t add new ones. Best it can do is add another file explorer icon for each new shortcut.
You can still drag excel files to an Excel icon pinned to the taskbar, and it adds them to the single list of individual Excel files “pinned” to Excel.
It just doesn’t let you add shortcuts to the pinned file explorer icon anymore. I had a whole workflow based on being able to quickly and easily access a handful of commonly used folders and ms office files. Makes no sense to remove useful functions that already worked.
None of this makes sense
I would rather describe Windows as a dampened oscillation with an undefined steady state.
There isn’t an universe where 8 was better than 10.
8 was INCREDIBLY fast
It also used little resources and it was the last time Microsoft pulled a massive dev effort to modernize almost everything in Windows, significantly evolving it’s display and rendering pipeline and making a whole different design language
8 touch interface was also by far the best touch interface I’ve used
They also forced the touch-like interface onto computers that didn’t have a touch screen.
8 had a real small install footprint if I recall. It worked on a lot of really shitty hardware that 10 didn’t. 8 is definitely not as popular as 10
Win10 compared to straight win8 (not 8.1 or whatever it was that fixed 8) is far superior in some ways. I get people don’t like either (I’m a dedicated win8 hater myself), but I would gladly take the win10 UI any day over the horrible failed experiment that was whatever the whole “Everything As An App! No Start Menu!” bullshit they tried in 8. Having your start menu replaced by a full screen app list is the absolute dumbest thing ever and I am so glad we’ve moved on from that dark age.
Also, what was so bad about Vista? I may have some rose tinted glasses, but I don’t remember it being that bad
Me too, Vista was alright for me.
This is less how OSes evolved and more a line of your perception of Windows. Guess windows 7 was your last one.
Real meme is in the comments
Where’s RedstarOS?
Redstar os is the best os everyone knows it’s the pinnacle of linux engineering
Sent from my spy-software-free mobile device (verified by my government™)
Windows 10 on the same level as ME and Vista?.. And worse than 8 with that fucking Metro UI?
Ok. Ok…oh…kay.
Look I like Linux and want to eventually abandon windows for it, but this is just mindless circle jerking here
This meme says:
- windows 8 somehow is more beloved than Windows 10 (lmao)
- linux is just one single OS, instead of an agglomerate of hundreds of distributions
- and implies that every single one of them got better with time (lmao)
Tell me you’re new here without saying you’re new.
I feel personally attacked
If your wondering i paid $1 for it at a swap meet, disks are still mint aswell :D
The features aged like milk
"Its the most secure windows version ever!! "
Win10 is not that bad. And Me was never as bad as Vista or (especially) 8. Also, Linux is not a linear curve, it’s stepped.
In my experience, Me was far worse than Vista, and 8 was more just annoying than anything. Sound cards were nearly impossible to use in Me.
Yeah, me was an unusable dumpster fire.
ME was the worst. DOS based windows 9x in a world with Win2k and XP launched only 1 year later
ME Was DOA even if it had been a “flawless” continuation of 98SE
Are you implying that win10 is worse than win8?
Yea, I’d say Win10/11 is on the same good/shit cycle as always
Though whether Win12 breaks it and continues the shitty trend is highly likely at this point
Highly disagree, 10 is just worse than 7. Its more like a downward spiral.
7 > 10 > 8 > 11
On this graph 10 should be where 8 is and 8 should be where 10 is, 11 is exactly where it should be
I’d call it a damped spring oscillation. Still goes up and down, but the extremes peter out with time.
Definitely, yes. Win8 was unusable on desktops but was pretty good on tablets, win10 sucks on both. But the main thing is that spyware/bloatware explosion happened in win10. Xbox services, onedrive, cortana, that weather thing with msn news, fucking candy crush preinstalls, etc, all came with win10.
Which are all significantly better than Mac OS and are especially better than Linux
Try to install windows 10 on hdd and see for yourself, Linux works fine no matter which device it’s loaded from, windows before 10 did too
Windows philosophy is that it comes pre-installed and should be used with recent hardware. You may think of that what you will (environment wise etc), but to me that’s a valid design choice to make, in principle.
Can confirm. Win 10 on hdd is torture.
I am missing something. Where else would you install Windows but the HDD? (I haven’t installed windows in 20 years so I don’t know)
I think they are talking HDD vs SSD.
Old person thanks you
If you’ve not yet tried putting an OS on an NVME drive, it’ll change your life. Or at least speed up your computing.
An SSD ? It’s about disk speed. The HDDs speed limit make win 10 sluggish as hell. While not as bad, even Linux (mint) is starting to be affected by this.
I used both on HDD. They are both slow but while Mint is predictably slow and stable, Win10 can grind to a halt unexpectedly.
My pc on win 10 took 20 to 30 min just to to start up. 🥲
Why would you install Windows 10 on a hard drive? If your computer is that old, you want 7 or XP
Are 7 and XP still supported?
No, but what are you going to do? Install WIn10 on a computer that’s too old and doesn’t meet the minimum specs?
If you have a 2010 computer, it’s either old Windows or Linux, modern WIndows is going to suck, if it even works. Ergo, i can’t think of a circumstance where you’d want/have to install Win10 on a hard drive instead of an SSD.
Maybe shits and giggles, similar to running Doom on random stuff? If someone has more imagination than me then i’m open
Modern linux mint with zram works flawlessly on lga775 4gb ram and Nvidia gt210 and hdd as main and only drive
If you’re still running 10 does it matter?
For a month or two
I have Windows 10 LTSC installed on an old hard drive and it works fine.
I guess it depends on what your standards are for ‘fine’, or maybe it’s a 10k rpm drive. Win 10 on a standard HDD is dog shit, I personally had to upgrade several offices from HDD to SSD when Windows 10 came out.
Got any recommendations for backing up / migrating systems to a new drive? I’d be willing to try it but I don’t forsee enough benefit to warrant reinstalling everything on that machine.
If you have a hard drive reader and spare thumb drive it’s not too hard. Just put clonezilla on the thumb drive, boot it, put the new drive in the reader, and clone your old drive onto the new one.
Back in the day I usually just put a fresh install on the SSD and downloaded their personal files from the network copy. I found that upgrading from 7 to 10 had a uncomfortably high failure rate, so it was easier to just put a fresh install of 10 on and go from there.
Oh I’m never upgrading. That would be crazy.
The sad thing about being a Windows user is they’ve got you between a rock and a hard place. You either upgrade or lose support, and in a lot of cases you can’t upgrade without buying a new system.
I know a lot of people resist learning Linux, but it really is the only way out of the cycle. You can start small at first, dip your toes in. Before long it will feel more natural and familiar than the next release from Redmond. On that day you will be free.
I’ve ran through 3 win 10 HDD computers and they all had sorts of performance issues with HDD. I don’t think it was tested beyond bootup for HDD.
Graphing failed
The only thing I disagree with here is Win8 being apparently better than Win10.
Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen, and while Win8.1 did help, Win10 was by far the better implementation of PC Metro IMO.
Having said that, Win11 is exactly where it needs to be. It’s all of Win10’s worst traits cranked up to 11 with a heaping of it’s own bullshit and spyware on top
Windows 10 should be a dead cat bounce on this chart. Better than 8, worse than 7, better than 11 by a lot.
Win8 was really damn annoying to use without a touchscreen
So many people say that but I actually liked the menu. It opened very fast and you could far more quickly find and hit the right tile than that stupid nested programs tree that was the norm in the start menus of earlier Windows versions.
I’d say considering that telemetry started to creep in primarily with Win 10, 8 was indeed better (meaning less bad).
Personally, I felt like Win8 was an over correction in favor of touch screens vs Win7. Win8.1 was kind of the sweet spot for getting touch screen functionality into Windows while maintaining a consistent UI between tablets, laptops, and desktops. So much so that I would consider it to be separate point on the chart between 8 and 10.
Win10 did improve the UI a bit over that, but was so much of a step backwards in basically every other regard that I do consider that the point at which Windows started trending consistently downwards. As in, Win10 should be lower then Win7 on that curve, with Win11 lower than that, and no real hope that any future updates or versions will ever improve anything.
