• nednobbins@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    Timing matters. I have family in Austria. I like a lot of things about Austria and I also don’t approve of a lot of things the government does and did.

    If someone were to have voiced that sentiment loudly in 1942, they’d probably be an asshole.

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      1 day ago

      So from your definition, me having family there and having some positive sentiment about some things I experienced there quantifies me as an asshole.

      I find the prejudgment interesting. I used to only get this from right wingers for being Jewish but now I get it from both ends haha. Take care!

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        24 hours ago

        Your post completely ignore my first and main sentence.

        It’s the timing that makes you an asshole, not your sentiment.

        Israel is currently engaging in genocide. I know it. The UN knows it. Dogs know it.

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          9 hours ago

          Good… good . Fight about another country. Split apart. The imperfect are unclean. Give no quarter.

          The left will never unify and the right will win.

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            8 hours ago

            If any part of the left is OK with genocide the right is already winning and the only hope is to split with them.

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              5 hours ago

              No one is OK with genocide.

              Reasonable people focus on banding together to accomplish goals. Do you think shaming someone for visiting family helps you stop the genocide? If every American stopped going to Israel, would that stop it? Please.

              This is something the right gets correct every time. They hold their nose and tolerate some things they hate so they can make progress on their other goals. Then when those are done, they do it again and again. Eventually they have what they want.

              They understand that real change is a long game.

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                4 hours ago

                It’s completely disingenuous to refer to it as just “visiting family.”

                He was the one who decided to post a photo op in Tel Aviv. His previous posts make it clear that he knew he was doing so right next to an active genocide. According to the article, pro-Israelis interpreted it as an endorsement of Israeli policy.

                Reasonable people still have boundaries. Reasonable people don’t “hold their nose” at genocide. Reasonable people stop believing in empty promises when every Israeli atrocity is rewarded with praise and unwavering support.

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                  3 hours ago

                  Ok. Then if you didn’t plan to partner with Democrats and liberals to change the situation from the inside, what do you plan to do?

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                    1 hour ago

                    In what way are the “Democrats and liberals” changing the situation from the inside?

                    Biden just approved another $680m arms package. That should be condemned, not celebrated. Acts that support this genocide should also be condemned, rather than celebrated.

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        1 day ago

        Just putting it out there, you are not. Your deeds and intentions are what define you. And there is no race or nationality that makes you inherently bad or good.