Has this person even considered the incredibly dangerous precedent being set where BOTH sides of the two party system have constituents that actively encourage them to abandon the rule of law?
What could go wrong?
Those damned leopards were so cute that I walked up to them and pet them…but they ate my face!
Don’t come crying to me when the leopards actually eat your face.
This one video (and the pervasive tendency of Centrists to engage in echo chamber building using “official block lists” on world and BlueSky) has inspired me to start this community.
*Maybe he’s joking and I am not in on the joke? *
I understand your point by in have some disagreements that you’ve actually touched on in you’re comment. I think you also know the issues I’m going to point out.
Yes, I understand you’re point however… Remember the gangster Al Capone? He sold whiskey during prohibition, bribes cops, ran a lucrative empire… He COULD do that. He DID do that. Was it legal? To bring up my imaginary neighbor Bob again. If we were in the 1920s and Bob got killed by a booze runner and I told you “that’s not okay with me” would you’re response be “this is how the system works”?
No. What I said about Bidens son is valid. Yes the system often works that way for alot of people. I’m not okay with that. That’s exactly my point. That’s why I don’t mind the pardon for Biden. I understand alot of people don’t get pardoned for this obvious miscarriage of justice, I also understand he’s getting better treatment because of his father… But to offer another comparison: “Bidens son get enough to eat because he’s rich! Some people starve!” I’d reply to that "yes it’s unfair alot of people starve because they are poor. That doesn’t mean I want Bidens son to starve because of some kind of misguided attempt to make things fair. I don’t want anyone to starve. I don’t want anyone targeted illegally by police. It sucks only rich people get out of that situation. That doesn’t mean I want more rich peoples kids harassed by police any more than I want more rich peoples kids to starve. That’s not the avenue I think will solve the problem.
One more comparison to illustrate my point.
Imagine we lived in a world where everyone who made less than 100k a year got kicked in the balls every morning before work. That would be incredibly unfair and cruel. I wouldnt march the streets with a sign saying “kick the rich people in the balls everyday too!!!” That’s not the solution I want. I guess it would technically be more fair, but my goal isn’t really fairness, I don’t want to get kicked in the balls everyday because that sucks. I want that to stop not expand to more demographics. That doesn’t help me at all. It just hurts more people. That’s not the solution I want.
Edit: sorry I said that was my comparison but I’ve got one more.
Rosa Parks didnt refuse to leave her seat on that bus because she wanted white people to also be forced to sit at the back of the bus. She wanted black people to be able to sit in the front. That’s what I’m talking about.
Obviously I want more rich people to go to jail for the crimes they committed and I want the system to be more fair. However my problem isn’t that cops arent being SHITTY ENOUGH to rich people. My problem is they are not doing what we pay them to do and they have no real oversight or repercussions when they are shitty. I know it’s common for cops to be shitty to disenfranchised people.
I’ve seen my privilege as a tall white redneck male. I’ve actually tested and pushed the boundaries of that privilege just to see how far I could actually take it. I’d love to tell you some stories sometime that would blow your mind. Things that would’ve got a black man killed but I didn’t even get a ticket. I know the problems, I’m vocal about them. The solution isn’t pushing cops to be equally crappy to more people. The solution is to make them less crappy.
Ok, so, we’re on the same side, idk where you’re coming from so hot and heavy.
I’m also not sure why you responded to my comment twice, but I’m not going to respond to them.
I feel like you’re putting words in my mouth…
I never mentioned the IRS, I mentioned Al Capone and tax evasion, not as a “he could bribe his way out,” but more as, “he broke tax evasion law, and that’s what he was put away for. Just like how Hunter Biden broke the law, regardless of precedent, he should face the consequences.”
That’s it, that’s the only reason I brought it up, I’m fully aware Trump and ilk are going to gut everything they can. I’m on VA disability, I’m fully aware I’m likely to lose half my income under his administration, and I fully understand what lays ahead of us for the next four years.
See, this is just condescending, and unwarranted. I engaged your ideas, I didn’t condescend to you.
You don’t, and you responded to this sentence twice across two comments, not sure why. I explained above.
The fuck are you talking about, who tf is Bob? If you told me “that’s not okay with me,” I’d tell you I agree. Why tf would I say “this is how the system works?”
If whoever killed Bob got off because he was pardoned by his father, the POTUS, yeah, I’d tell you sorry, that’s how the system works. It’s a different system for the rich: I want the system as it is applied to them, and then maybe they’ll change it. I don’t want them getting to walk away because the system is unfair, so they shouldn’t have to face it while we still will. That’s asinine.
I want Hunter to face the consequences of the system his father spent his entire political career building. Your examples are irrelevant, there are people suffering under the laws and system Biden built, idgaf that “the Republicans play dirty, wahhhh, we need to stoop to their level.”
Yeah, we fucking do, no shit Sherlock, but that needs to be done through legislation and loopholes, not protecting your criminal son after fucking over your entire country with your hubris. And spending your lame duck session doing fuck all for anyone but your family makes you a piece of shit who doesn’t deserve defense.
You act like you’ve come across this grand, “no one else can possibly understand my thought process, maaaaaaan” mountain man guru enlightenment. “I want the system to be more fair for all, and that system to be applied equally to all.”
That’s your argument, right? That you took multiple examples to try to illustrate? That’s how I’m understanding it, I’m almost sure that’s what the 12 examples you gave are saying.
Yeah, I agree, but that’s not the current system. The current system is the one I described above, yeah, I agree, I wish it was better. Biden could have done something about that over the course of his 40+ year political career. And he did: he actively made it worse, and then gives the country the finger to pardon his criminal son.
Fuck him, and fuck his pardon, I legitimately hope Trump still makes their lives a living hell. Y’know why? Because that’s what’s in store for me the next four years, and millions of people both like and unlike me. And you’re gonna say, “No no no no Blitzo” and write twelve more paragraphs with forty more examples you don’t think I could possibly have considered before writing this, I couldn’t possibly have comprehended this example, to illustrate that no, that’s just “I get kicked in the balls so he should too.”
No, it’s not, because Biden built the house that we’re all going to suffer in. His hubris and arrogance as “America’s Savior” fucked us, he didn’t pass any meaningful police reform like you keep screaming that we need, he didn’t do shit to make the system better, and at the 11th hour he abuses his power to protect his family.
No, fuck him. If he was worried about how the judicial system in the current form he helped create, not some idyllic one you keep saying we need to apply to them, then maybe he should have considered his actions and how they might affect his loved ones.
Y’know, the same bullshit judges say to people when they’re in court, after they’ve been entered into the system that, once again, Biden helped build. The system the rest of us suffer under because him and his party won’t do shit about anything other than line their pockets.
You wanna talk about pushing boundaries of your privilege? I went from a cis white male Navy sailor to a trans woman veteran, I’m fully aware of what minorities do and do not have the luxury of.
You’re acting like I think only Hunter should face the law, no, I think all of them should have: Trump, his kids, every insurrectionist, every fucking one of them. But guess what? Under the system Biden literally hand picked, he dragged his fucking feet and none of them will face consequences.
And not only will they not face consequences, they’re coming back into power, with a plan, because of fucking Biden and the DNC. So yeah, the system is fucked, but they should have to live under it just like we do, regardless of party or affiliation or wealth. Biden had 4 years to do that to Trump, blew it, and then did nothing to help us with his Presidential immunity but made sure his son was taken care of.
Comparing him to Rosa Parks for that is fucking disgusting, and she definitely wouldn’t want to be associated with open corruption like that.
It was just a long day. I wasn’t mad just rambling