Electric cars are not THE solution.

    • Salvo@aussie.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      2 days ago

      Polluting, inefficient, unsafe, noisy.

      If you go to South East Asian countries where the main form of transport is post WW2 motorbikes, you will notice that they aren’t the safest or most comfortable places to live.

      If you have a western budget, however, you can transcend the day-to-day hazards and live in a resort for a pittance.

      • sinkingship@mander.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 days ago

        Polluting - I don’t think so, except they’re 2 stroke engines, which are rare, nowadays. These days you see even more and more electric bikes.

        Inefficient - People often go 2, 3, 4 people on a bike that uses maybe 3 l/100km (78 MPG) or pull trailers wich stuff loaded, while using less space than a car.

        Unsafe - totally less safe for the people on the vehicle. I don’t know about pedestrians. However, a lot of the accidents happen, because poor education to get the license, if any; hardly any law enforcement and poor vehicle maintenance.

        Noisy - not more than a ICE car. Some motorbikes here have broken exhausts, which make them noisy, but that again is a lacking law enforcement and maintenance issue.

        I am aware, however, that driving 2 wheel vehicles in ice and snow is not a wise idea, so while it works in SEA, it would be different in colder climates.

        • Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 days ago

          Maybe where you live 2 strokes are rare, but when we are talking cheap, it’s always 2 stroke. Especially the example the other person gave, Asia is full of 2 stroke engines, all super noisy and poluting. Living near a dense traffic street in Asia is a very interesting form of torture for anyone who enjoys clean air or peace and quiet.

          Hell, even where I live, they are mildly popular and very hard to miss when one goes by. To move to clean and quiet alternatives can’t come soon enough.

          • Salvo@aussie.zone
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 day ago

            Thank goodness that cheap e-bike motors and solar panels are available to these markets.

            Someone with a little bit of intelligence can retrofit an e-bike motor on a pushbike, put some solar panels on their roof, connected to some trusty Lead-Acid batteries in their hovel and they can recharge their e-bike or cargo-bike.

            • Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              21 hours ago

              Cheap is a very relative term and I doubt you can reach an equivalent gas powered two stroke on the same budget.

              In Asia they use these vehicles as their main mode of transportation, meaning they also need to have power, travel far and carry their family or shopping. Where I live people use these vehicles on the highway and e-bikes have legal restrictions and documentation. Good luck reaching the minimum required speed with an unlicensed self built ebike.