• deft@ttrpg.network
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    10 months ago

    Took a lot of words for you to express you really don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Marxist-Leninist economic theory? Lmfao.

    I also find it hilarious you both agree the countries couldn’t fight back but also you’re saying capitalists never fought them in the first place. They did very aggressively.

    If you want to continue being ignorant about the CIA go ahead but you’re just wrong bud. Like the Red Scare was real, the Cold War happened. Kissinger was constantly looking for excuses to nuke anyone over socialism.

    You are cluelessly outside your mind

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      10 months ago

      I said the communists couldn’t prosecute the war against capitalism that they started because their economic theory is shit and doesn’t work well in the real world. Which is true.

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        10 months ago

        and I’m saying you sound so clueless treating this like some weird war between factions. It is an extremely uninformed position and view.

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          10 months ago

          It’s… historical truth, dude. The interim goal of the USSR was to overthrow capitalism in Germany, and then from there, enact world communist revolution under their aegis via COMECON

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            10 months ago

            But the CIA, who has way more funding, didn’t constantly overthrow any form of socialism they smelled? Okay.

            Do you support unions or workers rights by chance?

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              10 months ago

              Oh, sure, they did.

              Do you support unions or workers rights by chance?

              Absolutely. Which is one big reason why I oppose communism. One of the first things the bolshevists did when they seized power is took the right to appoint officials to labor unions and worker’s Soviets, and turned those representative organizations into agents of the Party rather than representatives of the workers.

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                10 months ago

                Which is fine. But you can’t deny the entire history of worker’s rights is haunted by capitalists trying to prevent or entirely suppress it. Socialism has followed the same path. Any time it is implemented from basic worker rights, which is a left socialist goal, it is intentionally poisoned by those in power.

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                  10 months ago

                  Of course it is. That’s why the role of governments in a capitalist society includes protecting workers rights, including union rights. That’s best done via democratic representation in a liberal democracy. But the presence of workers rights or union rights doesn’t end capitalism.