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      9 hours ago

      In 2020 Joe Biden recieved 19,080,502 votes, second place was Bernie Sanders with 9,680,424 votes.

      The “primary and presidency got to be an incumbent,” were listed in chronological order.

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        7 hours ago

        And I’m talking about 2024… WHAT PRIMARY? are you liberals capable of any self reflection? Are you really this obtuse? You really can’t figure it out? The democrats lost in a landslide - they lost the electoral college and the popular vote, they lost the senate and the house, and they lost a bunch of state government positions as well. The liberals owned themselves when they allowed biden to seek a second term. That was the day they lost the election, and the only chance they had at winning was by holding a real primary and even when biden was arguably forced off the ticket by a palace coup instead of holding a primary they - in the back rooms of course - coronated Kamala Harris despite not winning a single vote for the position.

        And unrelated to my initial point but since you bring it up, 2016 was fucking electoral fraud from the DNC.

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          7 hours ago

          Incumbent Presidents never have a “fair primary.” Never in two hundred and fifty years. If you think the DNC committed fraud to change the results of 30 Million Votes, with a difference of 3.7 Million votes then that should be super easy to prove and get convictions for. Maybe 2 people can keep a secret but not 2 Million.

          I remind you that they tried to convict Hillary for keeping an email server in her closet instead of at her office. She wasn’t too powerful to take down.

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        Oh yeah after the DNC threw their weight around to get everybody to drop out of the race and endorse Biden, that was definitely a real and fully representative primary.

        Even after dropping out in april and endorsing Biden, Bernie still got more than half of Biden’s 19 million votes, comparatively, and even won several states. If the Democrats wanted to win more than anything else, that was their guy, and they willingly threw that advantage away. That should tell you something!!

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          8 hours ago

          Oh gosh oh geez the DNC “threw their weight” and that made 10 Million More People choose Biden over Bernie in the sanders. The powerful, unstoppable, crushing, figuratively speaking weight. That weight. You know the weight.

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            7 hours ago

            Yeah buddy when everyone drops out of a primary just before the actual vote and tells their voters to vote for Biden, that’s definitely something that just naturally happens on its own and doesn’t completely defeat the purpose of running in a primary.

            There’s actual documentation on this and actions threatened by the DNC like cutting them out of debates but I don’t even have to point to it to show you how silly you’re being, this is just a silly thing to argue just on the face of it.

            I mean you probably have such a good understanding of spoiler candidates. What happens when a bunch of people who would have voted for many candidates all pool their votes for one candidate? For a guy who wasn’t even running on the day of the vote to get half as many votes as the only guy actually in the race is pretty indicative of his popularity

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              7 hours ago

              Bernie fucking Sanders, not even part of the DNC, was second place with a 10 Million Vote difference. The DNC doesn’t make Biden win by having people drop out in that context.