• miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    the closest this article gets to mentioning NordStream 2:

    Faced with some of the world’s highest energy costs, expensive labor and onerous regulation, many big German companies are simply upping stakes and relocating to other regions.

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      That’s right, the elephant in the room cannot be mentioned because then people might start asking who committed the biggest act of industrial terrorism in Europe since WW2.

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        it’s presented like weather or the natural state of things, you’re not allowed to ask why the energy costs are high

        reminds one of O’Malley-Dillon and Plouffe and Cutter talking about “PoLiTiCaL hEaDwInDs”

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          It does seem like people are starting to clue in though. At first, most people didn’t see impact on their daily lives and that made state propaganda effective, but now as the material conditions continue to decline it’s becoming less palatable by the day.

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        It also honestly just reads like standard US news media propaganda that comes up whenever they want something to be privatized, whether that’s Venezuela’s oil, Chile’s copper, Chinese industry, the VA, USPS, public schools, etc. It’s basically an underhanded threat and an attempt to lay the groundwork for justifying gutting European public services.

        What’s more, the Nordstream bombing is far from the only act of sabotage the US has done to Europe, which also includes stuff like the Ukraine war itself, suspicious fires at ASML plants, and the Suez canal blockage where the ship (for some reason) drew a giant penis before beaching itself.

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          Thing is that Europe is a capitalist economy and people who own companies will make decisions that increase their profits. You can’t compare Europe to China or Venezuela because the nature of the economy is not the same here. You are completely right that the US has been systemically undermining Europe though. The US has no interest in Europe becoming a competitor.

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            Thing is that Europe is a capitalist economy and people who own companies will make decisions that increase their profits.

            I agree and I don’t want to sound like it’s just US vs EU here, because there are plenty of capitalists in the EU of course who would certainly love to have more “austerity” and gut public services with as little public backlash as possible. I’m just saying I’ve seen similar propaganda in the US my entire life, often directed at institutions in the US, and a lot of times it shares similarities with how the US media also treats certain foreign governments.

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              Oh yeah, no argument that the article is very clearly doing propaganda to justify the austerity that’s coming. Basically, the way I look at it is that there are two things at play here. First is that capitalists who own the means of production are going to use the economic crisis in Europe as an opportunity to drive austerity policies. Second is that capitalist own media is going to do a propaganda blitz to condition the public to accept that.

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      luigi has been showing me that the most effective way to suppress something is to acknowledge it as minimally as you possibly can and then push on with your narrative. that way, you can simply say you didn’t suppress anything because it was there.

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        not what I am trying to say.

        the world’s highest energy costs

        would you also like a bad faith reading of your comment as “the bombing had zero effect on energy prices”

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            I guess I’m supposed to apologize for noticing that western media never mentions one of the US empires worst crimes when handwringing about Europe’s loss of “cheap Russian gas”. if the Russians really had bombed it you had better believe they’d mention it in every fucking article along with “full-scale invasion”

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            I suppose you won’t see this, but part of the reason I have trouble shutting up about it is because of the wall of silence in western media

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        you are absolutely right that this dish has been cooking for decades, I’m just angry that they pretend like the bombing didn’t happen. I suppose I should “get over it” but it’s not working what can I say