• sepi@piefed.social
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      6 hours ago

      x86 is already dead yo

      edit: downvoters don’t understand they are using amd64 and not x86 lol wtf

      edit 2: downvoters of this comment are computer-illiterate

      • ralakus@lemmy.world
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        x86 is the architecture, amd64 is an extention on that architecture so it’s still x86 just with an instruction set extension that allows for native 64 bit computing.

        x86 was designed to be nearly fully backwards compatible back to the i386 or even the 8086 so whatever code that could run on those CPUs would work on modern “amd64” CPUs.

        Pretty much x86 is a snowball rolling down a hill. It keeps picking up new things and growing as time goes on but the core of it will always be the same.

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          To me x86 is currently in similar position to internal combustion engine cars. We are already almost certain some of the alternatives available right now are better.

          The reason ICE/x86 seem better is that they have the benefit of being greatly optimised due to years of market dominance pulling billions if not trillions of dollars into research. Some company has to sacrifice a lot of money to get the ball rolling on new tech as it is very difficult for an emerging technology to break old tech dominance. However considering Apple seems to be pulling similar numbers on a way less developed architecture I d say we might be close.

          • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            I don’t know enough about the subjects to go into details, but I know enough to say that that is reductive. ARM/alternatives are not inherently better, at least not universally. And, especially because of the inertia, I do not expect x86 to be fully replaced on the desktop any time soon. The motivations behind companies such as Apple using ARM likely have more to do with licensing than anything else

            It’s probably more useful to think of x86 and ARM as slightly different tools that are slightly better suited to different tasks. Desktop, server (and possibly high-performance) computing are x86’s specialty, and I do not expect it to be replaced

            All-in-all, from what I know, the practical differences between ARM and x86 are nowhere near large enough to be compared to something like the electric vs internal combustion engine. It’s probably closer to a difference of, say, a typical train and a subway

            But, please read up on this yourself. I am not an expert in hardware, this is just what i casually picked up as a layperson

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            13 hours ago

            This is how capitalism shoots itself in the foot. It’s not actually the best system for progressing as quickly as possible.

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          17 hours ago

          x86 has been dead for years. y’all are using amd64. Or do y’all not know the difference?

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        17 hours ago

        good point. It still makes me smile how that one went down. imagine if we were all on f’ing itanium instead.

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          17 hours ago

          What are you smoking? x86 has been gone for years. Y’all are using amd64.

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            It’s always amusing when someone thinks they know something, then aggressively tells others, only to be wrong.

            amd64, also known as x86_64 is an extension to x86. It’s still x86 in kinda the same way a car is still a car even if you bolt a trailer onto it.