• DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    The issue isn’t fucking “social division”.

    It’s that one of the established American political parties went bat shit crazy and abandoned every principle they ever had in the naked pursuit of bigotry and power.

    Any time you spread “both sides” bullshit, *you’re aiding a hard-right propaganda machine *

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      It’s that one of the established American political parties went bat shit crazy

      People have been saying this about the GOP since Goldwater. The Republicans aren’t going batshit crazy. This has always been their platform. This has always been their policy. For 60 years running. The party of the Southern Strategy and the Red Scare hasn’t materially changed. It’s the Democrats (or, at least, the rank and file of the party) that has shifted from edgy white middle class GenX shitlibs to gender fluid, racially mixed, multicultural dirt poor Zoomers.

      This much the Crowderverse absolutely has right. The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is breaking away from the traditional small-c conservative evangelical white nationalist roots. Biden/Harris campaigned like Bill Clinton and lost because their base no longer has a stomach for Clintonian liberalism.

      Meanwhile, the Republican base isn’t changing. They’re being Based and Trad and trying to replicate all the moods of the 1950s, absent an economy powered by trillions in new post-war cheap public capital. So they’re just grasping scams, losing a bunch of money, growing increasingly economically anxious, blaming migrants/transgender tweens/Chinese TikTok dances, and doubling down on old school American fascism.

      Any time you spread “both sides” bullshit, *you’re aiding a hard-right propaganda machine *

      There’s no shame in recognizing a social divide that’s expanding over time. But there’s a fundamental difference between buying into right-wing hysteria about shoplifting gangs or transgender Mexican ISIS and acknowledging that your Boomer parents/grandparents are drowning in their own nostalgia while you’re moving on to greener ideological pastures.

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          Edit: I sort of missed the first part talking shit about gen x liberals and dirt poor zoomers while also affirming that the republicans aren’t changing ^(Citation needed) and “based”. The nuance there is just a thin veil for hate speech.

          It requires a second or third reading to catch on this, but it is surely a bad take

           

          the post of the previous commenter was nuanced.

          usually it is a good thing, but since the far-right is blatantly nazi, there are some risk with “nuance”

          overall, the previous comment seems to be analyzing how this divide is happening.

          my only complaint is that the comment doesn’t make clear who are the fuckers who are driving the social divide (spoilers: the right who is nostalgic about the post-war period and want to create a “new” post war period by, well, going full nazi)

          • nomy
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            2 days ago

            Weevil has some hot takes but I don’t really disagree with this one. You could rephrase it as “times are changing and conservatives don’t want to change” and no one would deny it.

            Agreed about who’s creating those wedge issues as well but I’ll even get conspiratorial and blame shadowy right-wing think tanks.