• DreamButt@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    The property taxes one was something I was just thinking about the other day. Basically no one talks about it but it’s such an easy way to reinforce existing issues

  • MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    1 year ago

    Serious question about cultural appropriation. What is it? Like, I wear non la, or Asian conical hat when I go fishing. The reason is because I hike through thick brush to get to spots where nobody else goes. Those hats allow me to tip my head forward, and it pushes the brush to the side as I walk through without getting hung in the branches. It helps to keep parasites out of my hair.

    It’s a superior design to a normal sun hat for what I do. Is that cultural appropriation? Or, is it only cultural appropriation if it’s disrespectful? But if it’s only when you’re being disrespectful. Then what about people that view just the very act of wearing or using something from a different culture as disrespectful?

    • Supermariofan67@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      The idea that any entity or group can “own” an idea or concept is bullshit. Just as copyright and patents are bullshit, so is “cultural appropriation”

    • beteljuice@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      The concept of cultural appropriation is mostly bullshit. Almost every single behavior and action every person takes is richly informed by multiple cultures, whether it language, clothes, food, or beliefs.

      I think the term only makes sense if it’s done in a disrespectful way, e.g. cracking a joke or wearing a sacred ceremonial headress to a frat party.

      But otherwise no culture “owns” any behavior or idea.

      • DreamButt@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        1 year ago

        The key part here is the note about disrespect. If you are using aspects of a culture but doing so with honest intentions then most people from that culture would be delighted to see you participate in their traditions

        • EurekaStockade@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yeah absolutely, most people get a kick out of seeing someone else embrace a part of their culture. The key, as you say, is having a go of it without disrespecting the culture.

          The people who get offended over it tend to be white saviour types, which is in the picture, as it should be.

      • MuhammadJesusGaySex@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        I appreciate the well thought out response. I’m an old millennial and kind of a loner, hence a hobby that I do by myself away from people. So, until recently I would have had to rely on Reddit to answer a question like that. Which I think we both know how that would have gone.

        Once again. Thank you for your time.

    • lnee@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Thing is with cultural appropriation oh yes there’s Chinatown oh and also people from China happened to live in Chinatown that’s cultural appropriation it doesn’t really matter who or what has a culture it is the freedom of speech to be able to poo on it and turn it into whatever now that may be cringe but cringe is part of the internet

    • linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      race is real, whether u like the effects it has on things or would like it to not be, it is, and we need to think and act according to that fact. The fact that race is a social construct does not make it any more harmless or ignorable for its victims than a socially constructed tank rolling over you or say a socially constructed police dragging u to a socially constructed prison for not paying your socially constructed debt.

      To try to pretend race isnt there and that it does not have an effect on the lives of the people that race was design to oppress IS racism.

        • TheMemorius@postit.quantentoast.de
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Race is a biological thing and of course it’s real. Why can’t we just accept that there are different races and be proud of that?

          We’re one species, and should hold together as one, be there for each other, empathize with each other. But saying we’re one race is like saying we all have the same hair color… Why would we act like this isn’t real, instead of accepting that it is okay that there are variations?

          • deathbird@mander.xyz
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            There are different skin colors, hair textures, nose shapes, etc. That human variation is all real. What isn’t real is race. That is to say, these phenotypes don’t combine into meaningful or stable categories that reflect some reality outside culture.

            • TheMemorius@postit.quantentoast.de
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              1 year ago

              Hot damn. I was just about to say that I like the view but it disagrees with biology - then googled it to be sure, and saw that this is actually true. In biology, humans aren’t categorized into races anymore. I had no idea! I learned something today.

      • Anti-Antidote
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        The way I see it, one’s race is something to be celebrated, cherished, and to be proud of, but it should never be the basis for how you treat other people.

    • beteljuice@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      I agree with you, but you will get shut down because it hurts the narrative. Those terms will be called “dog whistles” or something stupid like that.