Soldiers say they saw or did things that crossed ethical lines

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/25415713

cross-posted from: https://hcommons.social/users/adachika192/statuses/113918886736211269

Israeli soldiers are risking jail by refusing to fight in Gaza | The Independent (2025-01-15)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-soldiers-idf-gaza-war-b2679934.html
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“… a growing number of Israeli soldiers speaking out against the 15-month conflict and refusing to serve anymore, saying they saw or did things that crossed ethical lines. While the movement is small — some 200 soldiers signed a letter saying they’d stop fighting if the government didn’t secure a ceasefire — soldiers say it’s the tip of the iceberg and they want others to come forward.”

“Seven soldiers who’ve refused to continue fighting in Gaza spoke with AP, describing how Palestinians were indiscriminately killed and houses destroyed…”

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  • Akasazh@feddit.nlEnglish
    6·
    6 hours ago

    The not so fun thing is that German soldiers with moral qualms about the extermination of Jews and other ethnic/religious groups weren’t jailed.

    • Chris Browning, Ordinary Men

    Imagine playing the ethical low card compared to Nazi Germany

  • DruidAEnglish
    10·
    11 hours ago

    How realistic is it that this gains traction and makes big waves in their ranks?

    • Shortstack@reddthat.comEnglish
      18·
      11 hours ago

      I wouldn’t count on it.

      But that’s been my strategy lately, setting the bar for expectations so low it’s in hell. That way I am never surprised, and it’s appalling how many news headlines have been limbo-ing their way under that in recent times.

      This article is framed in a way that makes it sound hopeful, but this bit kind of ruins the whole thing

      saying they saw or did things that crossed ethical lines

      Emphasis mine.

      So basically we have child murderers who regret doing it because now they’re haunted by the spectre of their atrocities. At best we have guys who stood by while watching their coworkers murder children which isn’t really better, just less evil.