That entire instance is infested with a massive amount of right-wing hate, transphobia, homophobia, and ugly political vitriol under the guise of “allowing free speech”, rising to the same level or worse than lemmygrad (which we have already defederated from for obvious reasons). Please get this garbage off of the “all” page given that the entire instance actively breaks the rules of lemmy.one and is only providing them with a larger platform. I think a few trolls may have already spilled over.

just take a 20 second scroll through this mess or any of the other communities there: https://lemmy.one/c/[email protected]

  • Hello Hotel@lemmy.world
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    To be fair… yes* they did post before the reddit exodus happened*

    EDIT: Defederation needs to be due to the accused violationg a bight line rule of making a reasonable effort to prevent hate or intolerance and not by any culture war bs

    I believe We have crossed that threshold here

    However, that doesnt take away anyones right to defederate. If we dont want to federate with the group that encourages people to have PFPs that are

    Transphobic

    Of A boy (kalbin and hobbs?) Peeing on a trans flag

    We dont have to,

    no matter how much I would love to see them in the corner doing their own thing, their right to swing their arms ends when it hits a trans persons face. and being on the home page is militarally useful.

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      I wish I could argue with you on this point, but while I think no group should be beyond criticism and that includes “protected groups”, I would tend to agree that some of the posts I’ve seen in the past are probably over a line and as such I can understand why people would just say “naw, let’s just not federate that”.

      There are lots of good posts on the site even – they cover a lot of stuff we should be talking about such as crony capitalism and corruption, but it doesn’t take many really bad posts gone completely unmanaged and unchallenged to turn an instance into a superfund site, even for reasonably liberal people who want to allow talking about controversial topics.

      I think that’s a much better argument than just painting the site and everything and everyone on it with a broad brush. “There’s specific stuff on that site that they find acceptable but we don’t and there’s been instances where the users there brought their unacceptable stuff into the other communities so we don’t want to federate with them to maintain our own community standards” is difficult to argue with. It’s a well-reasoned point that shows everyone is thinking for themselves which is all I ask.

      And yeah, I saw OP was from beehaw afterward and realized that they were probably around a bit before all this.

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        Thanks for a sanity check, My post was too harsh, honestly this is what i think should be the case (edit: fix link)

        Thats the tradity of it, sensable people with a diffrent beleaf set, pushed into a room where their vulrable to perswasion (propaganda) that X is gonna hurt your kids. (It needs evaluating, but most are going to start with a soundbyte and build a hyper-reality in whitch the soundbyte is correct)

        Also to be frank, that was 5 minutes of browsing, and I couldve attached to any other group if i saw it first, I saw

        • slightly edgy memes / no ill will
        • memes about trans folk from an outsider perspective
        • a post of the same nature as the above but actively hateful and made by the user I mentioned with the PFP

        Link the stuff your talkimg about, It sounds cool