“If I get a chance to talk to you, man — please, man — let’s work something out. Let me keep my wife here in the United States. She deserves to be here.”
How do these people see the state exactly? The president can just do whatever? Equal application of the law doesn’t matter?
Probably because everyone saw him bail out the criminals involved in the Jan 6th insurrection- it’s not too large a leap for them to assume they are exempt from this as well.
In granting waivers for individual circumstances, that’s actually exactly the case. Our immigration law has always been deranged.
Pretty sure that’s how Trump sees it too
I really have lost sympathy for any and all Republicans.
Trump’s actions aren’t merely soulless and evil, they are stupid. They run contrary to the interests of the United States on every conceivable level. Prices rise, others countries lose faith in us, our enemies extend their power over our allies. Even Trump’s professed goals, such as combating China’s power in international trade, aren’t accomplished by his actions, considering he’s putting a heavier tariff on Taiwan than the PRC.
Having sympathy for a Trump voter is like having sympathy for a grown adult who licks an electric socket. It’s a waste of energy. You’re putting more value on their survival than they are.
This is why I joined this community, this is what will help get me through the next however many years of crap. No, I’m not proud of it, but I admit it. I’m a regular human, not a saint.
This won’t help all the innocent people who don’t deserve the pain and suffering they’re going to be put through, but it helps me feel better whenever the people who caused it also suffer.
the leopards are feasting tonight
Conservatives always think the rules won’t apply to them, only their lessers. It’s exasperated because they are the rules not applying to Trump, so they think that it won’t affect them, just the other people. Turns out if you’re not a billionaire, those rules do apply and they get surprised every. single. time.
They told you they were going to do this. I had to dig up an older comment of mine and am just sitting back in terror watching it all occur in real time
Women: he told you he’s taking your rights away and is already letting you die in hospital waiting rooms
Tradesman: he told you overtime and unions are gone
Veterans: he told you he hates you, pissed all over the sanctity of Arlington and is gutting the VA
Hispanics: he told you you and yours are getting deported and doesn’t care if you’re legal or not
Those on social security, Medicare, Medicaid or ACA: he told you he’s cutting/gutting these
Anyone with ties to Palestine: he told you he’s going to help Israel finish the job
Palestinians: he told you he was gonna build condos on your graves
Yo he really said that, literally? If so that’s ice cold. No heart
Not literally, but has actually expressed two ideas:
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That once the conflict is “finished” the coast would make a great place for vacation condos
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That Israel should finish what they started and “clear out” Palestine.
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… And find out.
The man told CBS News Miami his message to the president: “If I get a chance to talk to you, man — please, man — let’s work something out. Let me keep my wife here in the United States. She deserves to be here.”
And he still thinks trump gives a shit about him and would even entertain having a conversation with him.
And fuck this guy… why does his wife deserve to be in the US and not all of the other people who were grabbed?
There were some riots and fights between Kurds and Turks where I live. Both sides were aggressive, but the Turks started it days earlier. Some Kurds then beat up some teenage Turks. Erdogan, the Turkish president, called the boys personally to support them after the media reported on it.
Long story short, these asshole politicians will use whatever fuel they can use.
No sympathy for the husband. I feel bad for the wife for being deported AND for being married to a MAGA idiot that stabbed her in the back.
At least she’s not with the MAGA husband now. Silver lining?
It would be if they were just sending her back home, but they’re going to put her into a detainment camp and bad things happen there.
Yes, technically there is government oversight, but the oversight is handled by the kind of people that volunteer to run detainment camps.
It’s amazing how quickly non-fascists become fascists when the opportunity for schadenfreude presents itself.
Sucks that an innocent is paying the price for being married to a collaborator.
Ah, yes fascism is when… *checks notes* someone does not sympathize with racists
Fascism is when antifascist
Anti-fascist literally has fascist in the name (!)
Fascists love their euphemisms.
What’s next, are you going to support enhanced interrogation? Wait, you already did, and you reelected Obama after he explicitly made it legal.
You’ve intrigued me, so I’ll bite. What do you think “no sympathy for racists” is a euphemism for?
It’s an euphemism for nonexistent care for xenophobes maybe?
All he hears is “woke”
You’ll never get an answer for this.
Garbage read. Is this your peak?
He said he would do this!! How are people so fucking stupid??
They didn’t believe he would. They thought he would hurt the people who they wanted to hurt, but leave them alone as a silent exception, like so many other things did.
They are white and conservative and have likely never known poverty, every interaction they’ve had with the law has been the most reasonable and generous interpretation of it. They assumed that’s what Trump meant. That Trump wanted to deport the criminal element that everyone else was specifically protecting and refusing to acknowledge. They’d never seen firsthand the law applied cruelly against people they consider to be good people. They really still believed law enforcement was there to “do good” and protect “good” people, because that’s most of how they’ve dealt with them personally.
Knowing poverty doesn’t prevent magatism, and can actually be a risk factor for it, depending on the attitude the person takes. The idea that the “other” is responsible for all your problems specifically targets people with problems such as poverty.
I agree with the great majority of what you’re saying except:
have likely never known poverty
I grew up in poverty along with almost everyone else in my hometown. The whole area is super red. That’s exactly the kind of thing they believe.
Not to say there aren’t those kinds of people who haven’t known poverty, it just doesn’t seem to factor in.
I mean specifically this type of guy on how they are confused about how laws are enforced.
A lot of Trump supporters I think just don’t really think things through critically and are mad about the economy and crime and homelessness and the drug epidemic and are swept up by the idea that someone is actually acknowledging those issues properly. Because the establishment has sure refused to actually tackle them for a long time. And Democrats can’t help themselves but make themselves look even worse by constantly trying to introduce little nanny bullshit as well and they get a pretty deserved reputation as being a mixture of bought and paid for and nanny state trying to ban things and raise taxes. Republicans aren’t all that popular either anymore, people want serious anti-establishment candidates and failing a real one they’ll get excited about a fake one.
Ah, I understand what you’re saying now. And yep. There’s too much more to say on the matter for me to actually try to get into.
I also know a Trump supporting American Hispanic who have been mistaken as an immigrate by other immigrates. He has completely confidence that he’ll never have issues with LEOs, but that may be the agent orange in his nervous system.
You would be fucking amazed the support Trump has among the poor.
So weird.
Have you met people?
Survivorship Bias - or something similar. If it hasn’t happened to them, most people don’t care until it directly affects them. Even if it affects their friends or family, sometimes that isn’t enough.
The man’s wife, who’s Venezuelan and has lived in the U.S. for a few years, had a court date set up and “everything was good” until that moment.
“They just came and they snatched her,” the man said.
That’s what you voted for dummy.
I guarantee if you talk to this dude he’ll say ‘illegal’ a thousand times before you can introduce yourself. There is no comprehension of being scammed. I’d bet he’d buy a bridge if you pitch it enough to him.
I really feel bad… for her having married a Trump supporter.
Then again, what kind of piece of shit do you have to be to marry a Trump supporter, 🤔
Self hating, self loathing, rules for thee not for me type of person
If he voted, he should be a citizen and his wife should have a green card. I’m guessing he misspoke about the court date for “citizenship” - maybe there was some technicality there, maybe the paperwork hadn’t gone through yet.
But it’s not surprising. The legal process is far from perfect, and with authoritarian measures like this there’s bound to be people who are caught up in it who shouldn’t be.
You have never interacted with the US immigration system, right?
Even if you marry a US citizen, you aren’t eligible for a green card if you stayed in the country without legal status. You are required to leave the country, wait 10 years for the violation to clear out from your record, apply for a green card at the embassy, wait 2-3 years for approval, and then re-enter the country. Approval is unlikely for anyone with past violations, so I wouldn’t plan on approval anyways.
For the people involved in this, it’s unlikely that they will ever be together again (unless they re-enter the country without papers).
He could always emigrate
What a fucking moron.
