I am not making arguments for US politics. I am not here to give you “something (you) can use in future discussion with others”
I am telling you that you have no evidence whatsoever but you are spewing bullshit. You are just as bad as trump making up bullshit about how he read a report that nuking a hurricane would solve all problems. Your argument is literally “I think I heard somewhere”
We are all scared. We are all trying to protect ourselves. Maybe you can be an ally instead of an agitator, hmm?
There was a blog post by a website called Privacy Watchdog (if I remember correctly), I can’t find that website anymore nor the blog post,
Yeah. And trump totally read an article somewhere that black trans people are the root of all evil. He can’t find it right now, but totally trust him on that.
I don’t know if you are just this stupid or if you are actually trying to undermine those who are trying to make educated decisions on what they should or should not “trust” communication wise (you’ll note that I all but say “don’t trust proton. protect yourself”).
But either find that mystery article so that people can make educated decisions or shut the fuck up.
Ah. Thank you for actually finally citing yourself.
I actually HAD seen that before so:
.Protonmail Behaves like a CIA/NSA “Honeypot”: This is an incredibly sensationalized point that boils down to them having a really shit TOR page. And, agreed. But “In fact, the only other websites that operate like this are suspected NSA/CIA Honeypots.” is very much false. LOTS of sites are configured in a really shitty manner which gets back to people having to understand the tools they use.
Protonmail Does Not Provide “End to End Encryption”: Yeah. Which gets back to what I have been saying the entire time. If you actually care about your security, encrypt your own emails. Nobody should EVER trust a company to do encryption for them when it actually matters. Which speaks to the quality of proton as a service, not it being a “honeypot”
. Protonmail’s Was Created Under CIA/NSA Oversight: That article is almost entirely them just repeating that same inflammatory statement over and over. But it boils down to having issues with something coming out of MIT research which is a prestigious school with government grants and very questionable side hustles for some professors. The reality is that almost all software is at least “incubated” under very questionable circumstances because… people gotta eat and the people doing the kind of research that makes “cool stuff” tend to get government grants (well, not as of two weeks ago but…)
.Protonmail is Part Owned by CRV and the Swiss Government: Which is not the CIA?
CRV, In-Q-Tel & the CIA : I am not seeing a direct link to Proton Corp other than “Additionally, The mastermind, cryptographer & back end developer that created Protonmail, Wei Sun, now works for Google.”. Which… okay? If it was written properly that doesn’t matter. If it wasn’t then… encrypt your own emails.
Protonmail Follows CIA Email format & Metadata Requirements: "There are several ways to store emails, and Protonmail has selected the format that the CIA requires. ". Yup. Smoking gun right there. They chose the wrong standard. Yes, I would like it if they encrypted that metadata on principle. But it doesn’t matter. If they are compromised, they have that metadata anyway. Again, encrypt your own communications and maybe don’t use your personal accounts when you are discussing super sensitive topics?
. Swiss MLAT Law Could Give the NSA Full Access: Are we back to the Swiss being a CIA front?
Protonmail Uses Radware for DNS/DDOS Protection: So now it is Mossad who controls Proton and all they have to do is compromise a DDOS filter. Again, encrypt your emails.
Protonmail Developers Do Not Use Protonmail: if not wanting to eat your own dogfood means you are a CIA operation then Uncle Sam owes me a lot of money.
Protonmail engages in illegal cyberwarfare: They did a “hack back”, Okay? Fuck 'em, but okay?
Protonmail has a history of Dishonesty: Yeah, there is no bias in that list at all
You see, when you actually post a link to stuff people can discuss what you are talking about and explain why you are misinformed and clearly referencing a somewhat deranged hit piece.
The main takeaway from that? They are, at worst, as bad as gmail. Except with a much smaller customer base and at least more open that they want you to pay for functionality rather than not question what google is doing with your data.
And, as proton themselves even say: if it actually matters, encrypt your own emails. That way Proton Corp don’t have anything they can give to their CIA/Mossad/Swiss overlords.
you want me as an ally, your tone lost me…
If the only way you care about people protecting their privacy and very selfs is if someone is nice to you and cuddles you and thanks you for spewing uncited nonsense…
I am not making arguments for US politics. I am not here to give you “something (you) can use in future discussion with others”
I am telling you that you have no evidence whatsoever but you are spewing bullshit. You are just as bad as trump making up bullshit about how he read a report that nuking a hurricane would solve all problems. Your argument is literally “I think I heard somewhere”
We are all scared. We are all trying to protect ourselves. Maybe you can be an ally instead of an agitator, hmm?
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Yeah. And trump totally read an article somewhere that black trans people are the root of all evil. He can’t find it right now, but totally trust him on that.
I don’t know if you are just this stupid or if you are actually trying to undermine those who are trying to make educated decisions on what they should or should not “trust” communication wise (you’ll note that I all but say “don’t trust proton. protect yourself”).
But either find that mystery article so that people can make educated decisions or shut the fuck up.
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Ah. Thank you for actually finally citing yourself.
I actually HAD seen that before so:
You see, when you actually post a link to stuff people can discuss what you are talking about and explain why you are misinformed and clearly referencing a somewhat deranged hit piece.
The main takeaway from that? They are, at worst, as bad as gmail. Except with a much smaller customer base and at least more open that they want you to pay for functionality rather than not question what google is doing with your data.
And, as proton themselves even say: if it actually matters, encrypt your own emails. That way Proton Corp don’t have anything they can give to their CIA/Mossad/Swiss overlords.
If the only way you care about people protecting their privacy and very selfs is if someone is nice to you and cuddles you and thanks you for spewing uncited nonsense…
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