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      it will be incredible (in the worst way) to see the alt-right and socdems synthesize. President Bernie Sanders w/ VP Marjorie Taylor Greene, here to give every Amerikan healthcare and then bring about the apocalypse

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        I remember Lenin writing about the evolution of mensheviks. First comrades, then to 1917 hit or miss depnding on issue and person, then suddenly deep in kadet boots, 1921 straight up sucking the entente teat in armed rebellion against the proletariat.

        “Sanders is cool because he exposed many people to the word socialism!” They forgot to add “national”.

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          Mensheviks are a great example, in reading the history I have a tendency to overlook their political trajectory as it were in favor of just writing them off as always having been opportunists. But like, the Bolsheviks and Mensheviks were factions within the same socialist party at one point, even if the Mensheviks were usually on the wrong side. Martov and Lenin were apparently close friends at one point. A split within the same ostensibly socialist party birthed the first Marxist socialist experiment from one side and a complete disintegration into warmongering fascists from the other. Kerensky was a socdem SR and he decided he’d rather throw his lot in with tsarists and imperialists than cede an inch to the commies!

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            Martov and Lenin were part of one of the first marxist group in Russia. Lenin valued this very much, look at his letters about it for example around the first split. And another fun fact about it: when filling in the obligatory party documents, to the question “Since when you are in the party?”, Lenin till the end of his life always wrote “1893 (party founded in 1898)”

            Martov himself was also one of the main editors of the original Iskra, along with Plekhanov and Lenin (there were few more people but those three were the mainstay and wrote the most), and he would very much liked to remain comrades. Even during the WW1, after years of conflict, he still tried to reconcile on a base that Martov was among the internationalist mensheviks. Just as during the reaction times he tried to reconcile with Plekhanov on a base of the latter not joining the liquidators. In both cases it was ultimately impossible, but it’s not the fault of Lenin.

            And here come another part of liberal smearing of Lenin, that he sacrificed personal relations on the altar of politics. Which is incredibly idealist and individualst concept, especially that Lenin’s friendship with Plekhanov and Martov was organized around their political activity.