In 1994 the Clinton admin (her and Bill literally ran as a “two for one” in case you didn’t know) did the largest RIF in federal history cutting a quarter million feds out. Using mostly the same methods trump is today.
The numbers were just now coming back.
So really, she’s probably just mad he’s doing such a bad job of it, or more likely gloating that she did it better to her inner circle.
But there’s a reason trump was a big do or back then, and why the Clinton’s went to his wedding.
It’s crazy to watch how people have blotted Trump’s decades of pandering to every corner of the NY political establishment (while laundering money for the mob and their friends in the dirty-as-dishwater NYPD). Nevermind how the Epstein web neatly ensnared liberals and conservatives alike, for the purpose of extorting them to enrich his investor clients and enhance his credibility as a powerful insider lobbyist.
Trump’s the symptom of a much deeper rot. Our refusal to acknowledge that is as much a part of the problem with the modern political landscape as his actual presidency. Its the reason why guys like Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are so impotent in their opposition.
The Clintons, the Bushes, Bloomberg, the Cuomos, Bracewell & Giuliani, Howard Lutnick and the Cantor Fitzgerald investment bank, Bill Akman and Russell Vought… they’re all friends from way back. This doesn’t begin and end with one bruised ego in 2014. If Mathew Thomas Crooks had been a better shot, the administrative state would still be getting demolished right now.
People are downvoting you, but you’re absolutely right. These youngsters don’t know just how much (most) people adored Trump up until ~2015.
I still think Bill and Hillary have/had an open marriage and that they only went with adultery because they figured it would be easier for the public to stomach than the truth which (I believe ) is likely to be a purely political marriage with secret lovers often.
No I grew up in NJ. Most people thought he was a blowhard and an asshole around me but then again I grew up in a town filled with bankers and financiers so they likely knew him IRL. He was always a fucking clown.
Ah. Fair enough. I literally knew nothing about him growing up as a kid in the Sierra Nevada mountains. Other than the fact that he was the “you’re fired” guy.
Until he ran in 2015 he was just some vague celebrity that I remembered seeing once in awhile. Whenever he was mentioned in conversation it was neutral or making fun of him saying “you’re fired”.
how much (most) people adored Trump up until ~2015.
I’m not “old” but I’m not young either, I don’t remember any period where people liked Trump all that much. Maybe it’s because I’m from NY and have pretty much heard about his bullshit on the news my whole life.
It’s always blown my mind how people from NY could love him suddenly when our whole lives it’s been one article after another about some scumbag thing he did to contractors, or something with a woman. He’d go on Howard Stern and just be a pig with him. Maybe some people liked that part of him, but I never got the impression people liked Trump at least from the 90s onward.
I probably shouldn’t have used the word “adored” there. I mean personally I knew of his existence but I didn’t really have an opinion on the guy one way or another until his presidential run in 2015. Didn’t like him then and voted against him then.
I think most people had neutral to positive views on Trump before 2015. I mean you can go look at basically any old magazines he’s mentioned in. Old news articles. He is mostly spoken about in a positive way. The language around Trump and his public image totally changed after 2016.
I still think Bill and Hillary have/had an open marriage and that they only went with adultery because they figured it would be easier for the public to stomach than the truth which (I believe ) is likely to be a purely political marriage with secret lovers often.
What’s wrong with that? Don’t get me wrong, I hate both of them, but out of all the things to call out about the Clintons, why that?
Nothing wrong with it. I didn’t intend to paint it as a negative if it came across that way. More just my personal belief on that relationship and what happend when he got caught. I think they thought that more Americans would be able to stomach a cheating president than one in a “fake” marriage. Which today sounds nuts, but the political climate in the 1990s was significantly different.
These youngsters don’t know just how much (most) people adored Trump up until ~2015.
It’s not that people adored him.
It’s that he paid neoliberals to do things that favored the wealthy over average Americans, and Dems were more than happy to take his money and give him what he wants.
He gave for decades, he got more out of it than some wedding guests. As much as trump never paid his workers, he always paid his politicians.
And that’s what they cared about.
We can’t fix the country till we fix our party, and that means tossing a shit ton of rotten old apples out.
Where the fuck do I sign. Old apples all gotta go. If there is a minimum age we gotta set a maximum age. Hell I’ll take 70, but let’s aim for 65 or less huh?
In 1994 the Clinton admin (her and Bill literally ran as a “two for one” in case you didn’t know) did the largest RIF in federal history cutting a quarter million feds out. Using mostly the same methods trump is today.
The numbers were just now coming back.
So really, she’s probably just mad he’s doing such a bad job of it, or more likely gloating that she did it better to her inner circle.
But there’s a reason trump was a big do or back then, and why the Clinton’s went to his wedding.
It’s crazy to watch how people have blotted Trump’s decades of pandering to every corner of the NY political establishment (while laundering money for the mob and their friends in the dirty-as-dishwater NYPD). Nevermind how the Epstein web neatly ensnared liberals and conservatives alike, for the purpose of extorting them to enrich his investor clients and enhance his credibility as a powerful insider lobbyist.
Trump’s the symptom of a much deeper rot. Our refusal to acknowledge that is as much a part of the problem with the modern political landscape as his actual presidency. Its the reason why guys like Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries are so impotent in their opposition.
The Clintons, the Bushes, Bloomberg, the Cuomos, Bracewell & Giuliani, Howard Lutnick and the Cantor Fitzgerald investment bank, Bill Akman and Russell Vought… they’re all friends from way back. This doesn’t begin and end with one bruised ego in 2014. If Mathew Thomas Crooks had been a better shot, the administrative state would still be getting demolished right now.
People are downvoting you, but you’re absolutely right. These youngsters don’t know just how much (most) people adored Trump up until ~2015.
I still think Bill and Hillary have/had an open marriage and that they only went with adultery because they figured it would be easier for the public to stomach than the truth which (I believe ) is likely to be a purely political marriage with secret lovers often.
I was born in the 1970s I have no idea what you are talking about.
I guess you didn’t open a newspaper or turn on a TV very often then.
No I grew up in NJ. Most people thought he was a blowhard and an asshole around me but then again I grew up in a town filled with bankers and financiers so they likely knew him IRL. He was always a fucking clown.
Ah. Fair enough. I literally knew nothing about him growing up as a kid in the Sierra Nevada mountains. Other than the fact that he was the “you’re fired” guy.
Until he ran in 2015 he was just some vague celebrity that I remembered seeing once in awhile. Whenever he was mentioned in conversation it was neutral or making fun of him saying “you’re fired”.
I’m not “old” but I’m not young either, I don’t remember any period where people liked Trump all that much. Maybe it’s because I’m from NY and have pretty much heard about his bullshit on the news my whole life.
It’s always blown my mind how people from NY could love him suddenly when our whole lives it’s been one article after another about some scumbag thing he did to contractors, or something with a woman. He’d go on Howard Stern and just be a pig with him. Maybe some people liked that part of him, but I never got the impression people liked Trump at least from the 90s onward.
I probably shouldn’t have used the word “adored” there. I mean personally I knew of his existence but I didn’t really have an opinion on the guy one way or another until his presidential run in 2015. Didn’t like him then and voted against him then.
I think most people had neutral to positive views on Trump before 2015. I mean you can go look at basically any old magazines he’s mentioned in. Old news articles. He is mostly spoken about in a positive way. The language around Trump and his public image totally changed after 2016.
What’s wrong with that? Don’t get me wrong, I hate both of them, but out of all the things to call out about the Clintons, why that?
Nothing wrong with it. I didn’t intend to paint it as a negative if it came across that way. More just my personal belief on that relationship and what happend when he got caught. I think they thought that more Americans would be able to stomach a cheating president than one in a “fake” marriage. Which today sounds nuts, but the political climate in the 1990s was significantly different.
Fair point!
It’s not that people adored him.
It’s that he paid neoliberals to do things that favored the wealthy over average Americans, and Dems were more than happy to take his money and give him what he wants.
He gave for decades, he got more out of it than some wedding guests. As much as trump never paid his workers, he always paid his politicians.
And that’s what they cared about.
We can’t fix the country till we fix our party, and that means tossing a shit ton of rotten old apples out.
Where the fuck do I sign. Old apples all gotta go. If there is a minimum age we gotta set a maximum age. Hell I’ll take 70, but let’s aim for 65 or less huh?