Various nuggets of interest in this survey of Gen Z and millennials

  • floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    9 months ago

    It’s depressing how reactionary many men are, even the young ones.

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      9 months ago

      Seriously, they want tradwives, although most of them don’t actually want to support that lifestyle, they just want a bangmaid that’s also somehow independent enough to earn a living.

      • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
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        To them, tradwife = woman who is attractive (never fat), caters to their every whim, has enthusiastic sex whenever their husbands wants, does all cooking, cleaning, and taking care of the children, showers her husband in adoration, brings in extra income to support the family, and asks for nothing in return.

        Fact is, these men will never get that, because they possess none of the traits that would be deserving of such devotion.

        Also, if such a woman exists, I’d love to meet her and ask how the hell she manages.

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          I’d love to meet her and ask how the hell she manages.

          Amphetamines, usually in the form of their childrens ADHD medication.

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          They won’t get trad wives because they basically don’t exist any more

          The days of simply working a 9 to 5 being enough to get you a wife are long gone, women are more educated and able to support themselves now, men have to bring more to the table than just money

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          They just want to self select out of any possibility of a relationship so they can blame women for them not getting any.

          And tbf, women as a whole are better off without these guys trying to date them.

        • teruma@lemmy.world
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          9 months ago

          I manage just fine… got a dick, tho. Hope that’s not a deal breaker.

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            If you’re a mega-powerhouse in your relationship, what is your spouse like? What is their income? What daily tasks are required of you? Are your children school-aged? Is your home worthy of the “Homes and Gardens”? What do you do when you’re sick? Are you fulfilled in your relationship? How long have you been married/together?

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              My spouse is also a mega-powerhouse in our relationship. She’s excellent and picks up chores when I ask or need healthcare. I have health issues, and she attends appointments and procedures, and does extensive post procedure caretaking. My income is the primary income, while she does environmental preservation work that she’s crazy passionate about (which does bring in an income, she’s not working for free). No kids, but two cats. Our home is always a work in progress, but there’s one or two spaces I’d consider amateur magazine worthy, the kitchen and the loft. Sex is divine and of a frequency we both prefer, which is less than the stereotypical average. We are both happy and fulfilled, aside from the expected stress that comes from American politics. Together 13 years.

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          There are a ton of fundamentalist Christian women who hustle on social media constantly. Their husbands don’t want them to have a “real” job because that might undermine him, but they sure as shit want their wives earning money. Selling classes on how to be a homemaker, ebooks, clothes, doing sponsorships, whatever they can get, these women are doing, because their husbands don’t actually make enough to support a family. They just act like that doesn’t count as a job, so they’re still totally traditional and biblical or whatever.

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          9 months ago

          If they’re in the work force some Chad might steal her from me!! Never can she leave the house.

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          These guys are always upset about women not working. Or upset that women working means they want a partner in life instead of relying on men for food and shelter.

          Or they’re upset at the possibility of women needing alimony after spending their entire marriage not working while catering to their man’s every need

          Or upset that they have to pay child support to the person with primary custody of said children (and probably doesn’t have great career prospects after being a housewife).

          They live in some delusional fantasy land where women live to serve men, but aren’t at all concerned with their own well being when their men decide to ditch them.

    • seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org
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      9 months ago

      I remember when I was that age, and I was the same way. I think it might be a part of toxic masculinity. People look up to men who are quick and decisive, not ones who sit and ponder. Any indecision is seen as a weakness.