• alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml
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    5 days ago

    To clarify, there is no actual lemmy.ru, OP added it in to imply the other instances are Russian ops. The common narrative libs on lemmy use is that they’re russian bots.

    If you don’t believe that’s what OP meant, why don’t you tell us your interpretation?

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      5 days ago

      Ever thought about the possibility that Russian Bot might be used as an allegory for Russia Sympathizer? This is a meme, you took it too literal. Besides, could you scrutinize your liberal/tankie dichotomy? There are quite some anarchists here on lemmy who oppose both Western and Russian imperialism. Thanks.

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        5 days ago

        You’re not opposing western imperialism while supporting their war.

        This obviously doesn’t apply to people living in Russia, who should oppose their government’s actions.

        Do you genuinely believe that we are acting in the interests of the Ukrainian people, unlike literally every single military action we’ve taken since WWII? When we were bombing Syria and arming ISIS and Al Nusra to “liberate” Syria (and stealing their oil and crops), did you think that was for the good of the Syrians? When we bombed Libya to oust that evil dictator Ghaddafi, did you think that was good for the Libyans? When we bombed Yemen to oust the Houthi’s, did you think that was in the interests of the Yemeni people? Do you think the Iraqi people are better off today than they would have been if we didn’t invade them twice and cause over a million premature deaths, mostly of children simply due to sanctions? I haven’t even gotten to the 90s yet. Hell this isn’t even exhaustive for the 2000s.

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          I don’t get how you took my “I oppose western imperialism” to mean that I support western imperialism. I’m not supporting those wars. Where do you even take that from? I went to protests against the Iraq invasion 2 decades ago. Did you?

          I get the sentiment that it’s more important to oppose one’s own government but this should lead to supporting other governments. It’s possible to oppose both.

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            4 days ago

            If you don’t think we should be sending bombs to our puppet Ukraine, your position is identical with HB/.ml/grad, our lack of support for western imperialism is what gets us labeled supporters of Russia. Where exactly is the disagreement?

            This is literally no different from getting called a terrorist supporter in 2002.

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              4 days ago

              Let’s just agree to disagree, even tho we can’t even agree on what we disagree on