Musk v Altman: What might really be behind failed bid for OpenAI
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Elon Musk's goal might be hindering the growth potential of the AI firm of his rival Sam Altman, experts say.

Experts say his real goal is “stymying” its growth potential as his own AI ventures flounder.

  • Viri4thus@feddit.orgEnglish
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    2 days ago

    I’m not a ludite, I run my own llms and think “AI” is a massive step up in productivity in science and automation.

    I think OAI and the likes are a massive grift. If anything, DeepSeek showed everyone that the path forward to mass adoption is open source and a REAL marketplace of ideas. The grift is convincing illiterate idiots that their money is well invested in bringing a closed source shit product to the masses. Outside of novelty, a 1B model running locally is more than enough for the overwhelming majority of the uses people give AI, write or re-write text.

    I’m appalled our retirement money is in the hands of these people. Then I stop, look around and see world leaders (and first ladies) launching memecois and rug pulling to the tune of billions and realise it’s just another step towards idiocracy.

    Edit: spelling

    • MagicShelEnglish
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      2 days ago

      Cool. Sorry if that all seemed like a lecture. A friend and I have been working for years on a dungeon master chatbot that can run games on discord for people/groups without a GM.

      It works about exactly as well as you think: pretty decent, inconsistent, and with a frequent need to tweak prompts to permit bad guys to be bad guys, have swords fights, etc.

      I really want to run an uncensored model or at least one better trained on adventure stories and not at all concerned by a party of bloodthirsty heroes facing down bad guys who gleefully commit actual crimes. However to my consternation, OAI has the best response quality and understanding of game world lore.

      So I’m hopeful the state of the art continues to expand so that we have more options. It’s pretty damn fun and we run small Chatbots that simulate real and fictional people (Harlan Ellison has some things to say about Paramount that would make a sailor blush).

      It’s just a good bit of fun and something that keeps us all entertained. A total waste of money and silicon, but a lot of human pastimes are the same. And none is that even touches actual niche tools that actually are kinda decent (code completion isn’t replacing coders, but it’s a significant boost in some cases.)

      It seems to me the only real grift is them convincing folks that replacing actual workers with AI is just around the corner (and how fucking awful would that be, anyway?) I think money invested in OAI might be reasonable but money invested in any company developing products based on LLMs is the real loser.

      But I respect your opinion, and appreciate the response.

      • Viri4thus@feddit.orgEnglish
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        2 days ago

        Likewise.

        I think OpenAI had a good run but with Ilya gone, they’re just capitalising on the goodwill they accrued before turning to the darkside.

        Regarding the GM, i think it’s a terrific idea, however, there isn’t enough good data to train a good GM expert, hence the difficulties you experienced. If I were in your place, I’d try to generate sythetic GM datasets with wither GPT or other supplier or both, curate them as well as possible and train a small purpose model to do it. A similar approach to DeepSeeks panel of experts. I hope you succeed, and look forward to enjoy campaigns curated by your bot.

        Godspeed