• NSRXN@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    24 hours ago

    I’m a person. humans are animals, that is true, but we are distinct in important ways. denying this is dehumanizing.

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      19 hours ago

      No, that is a speciesist take. We are not distinct in the ways that are most important. Among many similarities non-human animals feel pain and don’t want to die. Those are the most important ways that we are the same.

      Do you think humans evolved in a vacuum? We share a lot of similarities in our brains with other types of animals that also have brains.

      It is not dehumanizing. Here’s a quote to think on: “When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression”

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        14 hours ago

        When you’re accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression

        i’m not equal with animals. this is just more dehumanization.

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        14 hours ago

        that is a speciesist take

        speciesism is rational. i wouldn’t ask an elephant to engage in a discussion on lemmy.

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          11 hours ago

          Speciesism is not rational. I’m assuming you would not apply the same standards to a human that had the same intelligence as a chicken?

          Say we had a person with the same intelligence of a chicken. Would it be okay to milk them and use them for their milk? Or to use any part of them for ourselves? To eat them?

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        14 hours ago

        non-human animals feel pain and don’t want to die.

        we don’t know that any non-human animal understands personal mortality, so we need to clear up an ambiguity in your syntax there. the don’t even know if they know they colud die. if you don’t know you could want something, to say that you don’t want it is almost tautological. we can’t say teher is any evidence they want not to die, though.