To carry on a war for the overthrow of the international bourgeoisie […] and to renounce in advance any change of tack, […], or any conciliation or compromise with possible allies (even if they are temporary, unstable, vacillating or conditional allies)—is that not ridiculous in the extreme?
The Black Panther Party in America, for example, had many anarchist comrades within it, a “rainbow coalition,” and so on… For COINTELPRO, however, it is known that Feds have used ultra-left newspapers and anti-AES-focused stories in anarchist papers for psy-ops. Feds mainly targeted the leaders and most outspoken members of the Black Panthers (mostly ML or ML oriented), and many major past members that remain alive are anarchists. Take that as you will.
also, I have an account on both Lemmygrad and Hexbear. All this infighting is making me
We’re both clear that Lenin says to work with people.
I’m trying to communicate that “left unity” implies a unity of movement beyond temporary alliance.
If we’re agreed that lenin is recommending temporary alliances, then it feels like we should be agreed that “left unity” (a permanent unity of purpose) isn’t really a thing.
Just so I understand correctly, Lenin is saying that communist parties need to join together to overthrow capitalism. Is that how you read it?
Can you help me understand why you think that extends to anarchists?
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And I agree with Lenin.
I don’t understand temporary alliances for specific goals to be the same as “left unity”.
That implies a unity of purpose and goal that doesn’t exist.
I don’t want the future Anarchists want, and they don’t want mine.
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Is it a thing in Hexbear to just like, be meaner when you can’t get your point across?
Maybe having downvotes would make y’all more pleasant to interact with.
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The Black Panther Party in America, for example, had many anarchist comrades within it, a “rainbow coalition,” and so on… For COINTELPRO, however, it is known that Feds have used ultra-left newspapers and anti-AES-focused stories in anarchist papers for psy-ops. Feds mainly targeted the leaders and most outspoken members of the Black Panthers (mostly ML or ML oriented), and many major past members that remain alive are anarchists. Take that as you will.
also, I have an account on both Lemmygrad and Hexbear. All this infighting is making me
Yeah, but does “temporary ally” mean the same thing as “left unity”?
This post is the worst and I hate it but I can’t back out now.
(verb) to ally: combine or unite with (another) for mutual benefit.
“temporary ally” and “left unity” are obviously not synonymous, but it would be disingenuous to ignore any overlap
I’ll accept that there’s some overlap, I don’t think that detracts from my point.
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We’re both clear that Lenin says to work with people.
I’m trying to communicate that “left unity” implies a unity of movement beyond temporary alliance.
If we’re agreed that lenin is recommending temporary alliances, then it feels like we should be agreed that “left unity” (a permanent unity of purpose) isn’t really a thing.
Is there anything I’ve missed in this summation?
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And you’re just being mean because you don’t want to concede the point.
Can we agree that “left unity” (as a permanent unity of purpose) isn’t a real thing?
Or are you just going to duck the question and yell at me again?
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