• Empricorn@feddit.nl
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    18 hours ago

    I legitimately haven’t seen anyone defend democrats. They’re like the IRS: necessary, but no one likes them.

    What I have seen is “democrats suck!” as a general deflection anytime someone mentions how bad this current administration is, how it could have been prevented, or what we need to do in the future…

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      17 hours ago

      Democrats are only necessary if your goal is to maintain the illusion that America is a democracy which serves the people while maintaining the status quo.

      Democrats are a net negative. What is necessary is something we don’t have and haven’t had, a true leftist party. The lack of that necessary party is what has led us to this current situation.

      The Republicans being bad doesn’t make the Democrats good. Especially when they are complicit.

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        17 hours ago

        See, this is people defending the Dems lmao. Not a single falsehood, but it’s downvoted all the same.

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      18 hours ago

      I have seen plenty and Democrats are not like the IRS. They are not necessary at all. They are just one right wing party that should disappear and be taken by an actual left wing party. The fact that you think that they are necessary shows how deep the ingraining of the necessity of a bipartisan oligopoly has run in the populous.

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        16 hours ago

        `The fact that you think that they are necessary shows how deep the ingraining of the necessity of a bipartisan oligopoly has run in the populous.

        This is the crux and can not be overstated.`

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        18 hours ago

        Let me guess, a left wing party that sucks it up to putin?

        What’s your take on putins brutal invasion of Ukraine for example?

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          Is this leap because of the .ml on their name? I’m not trying to agitate you but it took me too long to understand how Putin was a part of this conversation. I could also just be dumb or missed something.

          They aren’t wrong that the Dems are a right wing party and we deserve better, especially when compared to European politics.

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            14 hours ago

            Is this leap because of the .ml on their name?

            No, it’s just what centrists say about anyone to the left of Netanyahu.

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            If you told a lib they can’t drive because they’re too drunk they’d tell you only a paid Putin troll would say it and drive off yelling about democracy

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            16 hours ago

            I’m european BTW.

            What do you think about putins brutal invasion of Ukraine?

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              16 hours ago

              I’m european

              That’s even worse. At least your politicians have shares in US companies and get bribes, what’s your excuse for white knighting a corporate party from a country you can’t even vote in?

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              14 hours ago

              Yes, deflecting is THAT easy! Now you can turn any criticism into your own minute of hate and avoid engaging in self criticism.

              Hey, it’s worked out so well for your country!

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                  13 hours ago

                  Be easier to just post the entire bag of thought terminating cliches you have instead of doing it one by one so everyone can save some time.

                  We can even pretend we haven’t seen all the same ones with the same wording from every other milquetoast lib.

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          16 hours ago

          It’s exactly this racism as a first recourse to defend your oligarchy that has your settler country in the shitter. America can’t die fast enough i stg.

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      13 hours ago

      What I hear is a lot of complaints and very few ideas of what to do about it. The Democrats can be forced to suck less.

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        The Democrats can be forced to suck less.

        Then you probably should have done that before the genocide