It has been a while since I last made a post questioning things, life has been really busy. But I currently got a little bit of downtime so why not make a new thread again :)
So the question is how often do you do updates? Every day? Once a week? Once a month? When XY thing happens? Never? Or is it just completely random?
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Once a week with Arch, except when I hear about a security issue, I immediately update.
Phone and MacBook I think update them self or at least I annoy me to press update on next restart/ some time. For my work laptop I try to only update while being in the office in case something goes wrong so I don’t have to leave home office involuntary. Other stuff I mostly update if I want to install something and that’s pretty often. Only problem my old PC that I sometimes use for gaming. It’s running arch and I haven’t updated it in a while so I have like 1k packages to update and if I try to update all certificates are out of date but I didn’t bother to fix because I only use it to play some games. On this server unattended upgrades is used for obvious security reasons.
Arch: everytime I log in. Work laptop (Ubuntu): whenever prompted, which means once a weak. Android: whenever prompted which means never (I guess my phone is old).
I shall start.
On Linux I update everything whenever one of these 2 are true:
a) Discord stopped working because its “out of date” and wont automatically update itself anymore
b) I am installing a new package
So maybe twice a month?
Windows: lol never. My Windows 7 install is stuck in 2015, my Windows 10 install in 2019 on purpose. The only thing ever running on them is Steam and they only get booted once every so many month so I really don’t care.
Android: Uhhhhhhhhh I use Android 10 still even tho supposedly there is an update to 11 on my phone. I updated it a couple of times and every time I got more bloatware from Samsung so I am just ignoring them now. I do keep most of the apps (there is some huge exceptions) up to date for the most part (do them once a month maybe).
Basically I am terrible with updates and they are a mess all over. I really hope I am not the only one.
Linux once or twice a week.
My iPhone, with exception to iPhone software update, it updates itself.
You should update your systems at least once a month. There are some serious security patches that are implemented. I know you can’t update your windows 7 install as it is no longer a supported OS, and it is currently rife with exploits.
Based on your update pattern, you are a prime target for being hacked and potentially having info stolen that may be very personal or financially disruptive.
I assume you just read my comment quickly and missed this very important part:
The only thing ever running on them is Steam and they only get booted once every so many month so I really don’t care.
There is literally nothing else on those systems. If you manage to actually somehow get to them then congrats, you deserve it and Valve needs to check better what they let people upload/download.
I am lazy, but I am not stupid.
I was meaning your systems that you use daily like your phone and daily driven computer
And those I literally said I update at least once a month or more.
Windows and Android, immediately when prompted.
My Linux machines are whenever I feel like it. Probably every other week. Unless I hear about a relevant security issue.
On that note, what’s a good security mailing list now that RHEL is shutting theirs down?
I try to do it every time I use the computer (so every day for my desktop and around weekly for the laptop) but of course thats not always possible. Desktop is running Arch with my custom setup I am still working on, and my laptop has EndeavourOS with LTS kernel.
When it comes to mobile, I have a OP8Pro so in terms of bloat as another user mentioned, its not that bad. I update the system whenever I see there is one, so roughly every 6 months I want to say. Apps I update regularly.
- Linux: Daily, sometimes multiple times a day if I’m bored.
- macOS, Windows, Android: Once a month.
Mac laptop: Never iPhone: Constantly
On my personal Linux machines I update daily. I have an update alias for all my package managers, I type it once a day to keep everything update. I run that command in the background while working, usually it doesn’t even require a reboot.
On the production Linux cluster that I manage at work, I update once a week.
I have a Windows boot that I use exclusively for gaming, but I don’t game too much these days. So about once q month I open it and try to keep up with updates. Unfortunately it’s a tedious and time consuming concept. Windows Update takes a long time and requires multiple reboots. Then many drivers and software require their own updates. Now to mention the games themselves which sometimes have 50GB updates. It easily takes me over an hour to get everything updated to my standards.
I run that command in the background while working, usually it doesn’t even require a reboot.
Interesting, I always avoid updating as much as I can whenever I work on something because 3/4 of the time something starts to act wonky resulting in me needing to close everything down and reboot.
I would imagine having to deal with it for that long every time would make you wanna game even less. I am so glad that 95% of games work fine on Linux nowadays.
i update my arch like once a week when i remember to. usually get no problems.
i haven’t updated my android phone since mid 2022 because i don’t trust them to not ruin something.
and i don’t get a choice with my windows desktop
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I tend to update my endeavouros whenever. Mostly when I get a notification about there being X packages ready for an update.
Sometimes I update when there are only about 10 packages that need updating, sometimes (more rare) when there are 100-200. If I see there are more than 200 I make sure to update asap.
Desktop: (Arch) about 2-3 times a month, but used to be 1-2 times a week when I wasn’t working. I also usually update when Discord stops working. Sometimes asap when there’s a security fix. Otherwise i update for cool new stuff or because it’s been a while :P
Laptop: (Debian) 50/50 chance when Discover says there’s updates available
Phone: (ios) usually when new emojis are available 💀
Ah someone else who updates when Discord stops working, there is at least 2 of us :D
Huh, is new emojis being available a common thing? I am too old for that shit and still use the text ones :)
Yup lol. Although just now I discovered that the Arch Wiki changed a section on Discord where you can disable the update check (before, it was written on how to spoof your version which I used a couple times)
New emojis don’t roll out very frequently, from what I understand there’s a whole process it goes through and then it sits in a queue for like 2 years. Sometimes I use the brand new ones, other times it’s other people who use them and I want to see the emojis myself. Text ones are still just as valid though o(-)o
Oooooooo I didn’t know about that either. I haven’t had the issue yet with that on Arch, but it was a constant issue back when I was using Manjaro and for some reason I never thought to look up if I can disable it (I just automatically assumed I couldn’t I guess). Thanks for letting me know about it!
I see, makes sense ^^.
No problem haha. I think the Arch Wiki is full of neat little tricks like that, definitely give it a check for other things ^^. In this case I actually learned about it from a high school teacher who ran Arch. I was sarcastically complaining that Arch didn’t update fast enough because the update Discord wanted wasn’t in the repos. So to both help me and play along, my teacher linked the wiki page and said RTFM 🤣
Oh yea, I have used it for other things and it is amazing, it just never crossed my mind to check for that specific issue, silly me :D. I really didn’t think they would actually let you disable the update check and I always complained about it because on phone it lets you run whatever outdated version you want…
