Liberal Party members have chosen former central banker Mark Carney to be their new leader and the next prime minister of Canada.

Carney secured enough votes in the first round of voting to win the job, party president Sachit Mehra announced.

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    14 hours ago

    There was never a chance a woman would win as leader. The Liberals claim to be feminist but have never had a female in charge running the Liberal party.

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      I really don’t think that had much to do with it.

      It should be no surprise that during an economic crisis, the candidate that successfully lead two central banks was selected.

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        Carney had nothing to do with Canada’s economy, it was Jim Flaherty. Carney did major economic damage to England and England was worse off when Carney left. He plans to bring in more taxes if he can’t increase current sales taxes plus increase income taxes.

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          He plans to bring in more taxes if he can’t increase current sales taxes plus increase income taxes.

          Not sure where you’re getting this from but it goes directly against what he’s been saying throughout his campaign.

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          Doing the same job here he had no influence and doing the same job there he ruined everything?

          Maybe the UK is worse off because of Brexit, an event which had really only one outcome: worse trade policies, and using less efficient industries to compete against more efficient competitors.

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            Carney was against Brexit because it was bad economic policy for the UK to follow. They voted for it anyway twice and Carney helped them through it despite him not agreeing with it. The UK is still suffering now and is even talking about re-joining the EU.

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              Yeah that’s not really his fault at all, in his position I think it’s expected that regardless of the political situation you see it through.

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          OMG a Minister of Finance and the Governor of the Bank of Canada had entirely different jobs to do, and different roles. They worked together but had different responsibilities.

          He’s going to tax polluting industries. Instead of individuals. If the country elects the Liberals under Carney it’s a mandate to try new things. What those new things are, will be decided by a guy with an education in economics and experience as a policy maker as the Governor of two major global Banks.

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          Carney had nothing to do with Canada’s economy, it was Jim Flaherty.

          Pfft. I was around back then and Flaherty was just Harper’s mouthpiece.

          And for your information …

          In practice, the (BoC) governor sets monetary policy independently of the government. Source

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      Freeland has polled fairly poorly against Poilievre and this is what everyone i know voted on - who can defeat him. Then there’s some of the bad takes she made. She sounded austerity-ish, made some anti-woke statements which play right in the cons’ hands.

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        The broad Canadian public is against woke policies. People want meritocracy, not identity. Read the public polling of the amount of people who support same sex marriage, it’s going down. Look at the polling numbers of the public turning against the ideology of transgenderism.

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          Please piss off to conservative lemmy’s. Or to the US. You have no coherent explanation of what is “woke” except for maybe it’s something undefined that you don’t personally like. You don’t speak for the broad Canadian public. Stop inflecting garbage US nonsense here. We’ve had gay marriage for more than 25 years and it’s never going away.

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            When you go outside, talk with random strangers and ask for their take on woke and check if people out in public support gay marriage. Get people;s opinion’s face to face that you don’t know previously, the internet is not the real world.

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          Um, dude? If you’re going to pretend to be a Canadian, might be good if you studied up on Canada first.

          If instead you’re from one of the more disgustingly backward parts of rural Alberta, you might want to pay attention to what’s been happening in the rest of the country for the last fifty years or so, with emphasis on the past couple of months.

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          The broad Canadian public is against woke policies.

          Proof please.

          Read the public polling of the amount of people who support same sex marriage, it’s going down.

          … and

          Look at the polling numbers of the public turning against the ideology of transgenderism.

          Please post the relevant polls.

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                I mean it’s possible that it may have fallen some due to the relentless campaign against it in thr US, coupled with the typical leakage of American propaganda into Canada. The support for gay marriage was never 100% so it’s conceivable that it may have dropped a bit but I don’t expect a dramatic change or anything approaching a majority against. Not coming off of 79% approval in 2023.

                I really liked how Carney addressed the woke scare. He said that while America engages in a war on woke, Canadians will continue to value inclusiveness. Also he contrasted the US as a melting pot with Canada as a mosaic. Simple.

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          A quick look in Wikipedia shows in 2017 support for same sex marriage stood at 74% and in 2023 at 79%. Did it fall since then? To what?

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      The liberals have maintained preferential hiring for women in the public service for decades, even though they are not the minority, nor have they been the minority since the early 2000s. Their policies are often very heavily entrenched in DEI mentalities, with zero tolerance for discussion / debate. Their feminist and minority-centric policies have explicitly alienated a large number of young men, particularly young white men, as was highlighted even during the introduction of the Liberal speeches/presentations on the cbc coverage.

      Running a woman for leader is introducing a wedge issue in terms of voter opinion, at a time when the election results are really critical. Pretending like there aren’t still a lot of voters who have some degree of sexism is not realistic – and it’s of utmost importance that the Liberals do everything they can to challenge PP. I would rather they ran a man, with a higher chance of winning, than pretended like Freeland could win while she was overtly continuing to alienate male voters right up to the end with the “Man eater” music. Like imagine if a male candidate came out grooving to a song about beating women… what a stupid, divisive move.

      That sort of blindness to the reality of the voting public, is precisely why the NDP are sunk. They run an overtly Sikh guy, who cozies up to Sikh’s at every public event he goes to… pretending like this isn’t going to alienate a bunch of voters, and be a huge issue in places like Quebec (where they’ve banned overt religious symbols in the past). It’s blind demographic politics optimism, with little serious regard to winning. Same goes for the Greens, when they put in that Black Lesbian Jewish Pro Palestine lawyer lady, who crashed and burned.