• AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    The UI looks the same lol

    The layers are the big thing, but its hard to show because the final result looks the same anyways

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      18 hours ago

      Aw man i was hoping for a big ui upgrade like when blender released version 2.8 that now even cinema4d is copying.

      I fear gimp truly doesnt care about its ui/ux because technically everything you want to do is possible as long as you learn the ways ans they dont care to attract an audience thats not die hard FOSS people. For example schools havent been able to use it because theyre so deadset on their nsfw name and schools cant have kids googling gimp with the pictures that will show up

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        8 hours ago

        I fear gimp truly doesnt care about its ui/ux

        Why, because its been the single most requested change by the GIMP community for 20+ years and its the one thing they refuse to address?? Dont be silly, its not like the devs are acting like the guy who makes Filezilla who has been steadfastly refusing to implement a ‘dark’ feature simply because he does think anyone wants it… oh wait

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          1 hour ago

          Is that seriously a thing with Filezilla? I had to use it for something recently and downloaded it for the first time in years. Couldn’t find any way to not blind myself no matter how hard I tried.

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        15 hours ago

        No self-respecting UI designer would ever want to work on that dinosaur of a codebase. The GIMP team is simply unable to do what Blender did, even if they made the UI their number one priority.

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          10 hours ago

          I mean the whole point of doing the mega rewrite to gtk3 was specifically to enable such forward looking progress.

          What they did in the 3.0 release was, largely, a massive modernization of a dinosaur code base.

          Now that it’s done it makes sense to do a UI overhaul. Before 3.0 it made no sense to even try, now it does.

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            8 hours ago

            Why not? Krita did it, they made an entirely new interface (hell they did it over 10 years ago) so why does the GIMP teams refuse to do the same?

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              They refuse to do the same because migrating from GTK 2 to GTK 3 took 7 years to achieve with a diminutive team and they still implemented a multitude of requested features.

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              They’re not refusing. They’re actually doing the opposite. But they needed to get their house in order first.

              The 3.0 upgrade was the result of the getting their house in order and modernizing. Doing cosmetic changed before hand would have made no sense because those changes would have been thrown away when they would have to modernize things anyways.

              I think I have an analogy.

              Gimp was like an old American style wooden house that was flooded. After the water recedes you could try to make things look nicer by plastering and painting the walls etc. But as goes with flooded houses if you do this the mold will rot everything out.

              In order to save a flooded house you need to remove all the dry wall and use fans to dry out the internals. Once things are dry then you can plaster and repaint things.

              Gimp 3.0 was them ripping out dry wall and air drying the internals. Now that that is done it now makes sense to clean up the UI.

              If you clean up the UI before you dry the walls out it’s just a waste of time because those improvements would need to be ripped out with the dry walls always.

              It’s not perfect as far as an analogy goes but it’s close. Gimp should have never let the house flood in the first place. (Analogy breaks down here a bit). But since they did. They needed to fix the fundamental before it would be worth fixing the UI.

              This all being said they could at this point genuinely refuse to change things UI wise. I hope they choose to pull a Blender or Krita but they don’t have to.

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                3 hours ago

                The 3.0 upgrade was the result of the getting their house in order and modernizing

                meh I believe they can walk and chew gum at the same time, I think they just wanna walk and not chew gum at all

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                  Think of it like the flooded house analogy. They could paint the dry wall while tearing it out at the same time. But why would they?

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        they could have just called gims or gim

        naming stuff is important