• j4k3@lemmy.world
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    The idea is very different than the reality. The freedom of information, communication, and variety are so much better now.

    Need a job, get a newspaper for classified ads and take whatever you can get, or start calling friends and networking when you’re lucky to get a voicemail.

    Want to unwind and watch something? You can spend all evening flipping through channel after channel of garbage.

    Need to learn something, prepare to spend days going to different public libraries to find anything useful. Most people don’t learn anything. Most people’s only adult social connection is though religion. It is a small dumb world where I grew up.

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      I called my grandfather when I wanted to learn something. The library was the backup if he didn’t know. He was a well educated engineer, and my grandmother also had a university education and an excellent knowledge of literature.

      I wouldn’t mind killing off social media, but I have offline copies of Wikipedia for a reason. That shit is important.

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      Yeah, it was. But only because it was in the 80s and I was in my early teens back then. I don’t think the world was much simpler though. I was just looking at it through oblivious eyes of youth…

      Cold War was in its heyday. Russia was at war, just like today. Ronald Regan came to power. There were bloody and terrible terrorist attacks. Chernobyl blew up etc etc.

      It was a shitshow.

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        The late 80s and 90s weren’t so bad. I think a lot of what they call “internet” is really reflecting the algorithmic, intentionally addictive social media (vs the old forums, that were sort of niche even then), and “cell phones” likely smart phones that are a prime avenue for accessing that social media. I’d probably give up my smart phone convenience for a phone-less Spotify streamer and a standalone GPS.

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    Ah, the good old remantization of the things you don’t know.

    If they’re so eager about it, they can try taking their hands off the phone, for change.

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      Doesn’t change expectations of others for you to respond to work emails or other shit at all hours. Doesn’t bring back the days of concert going paying attention instead of 800 phones being held up to record some shitty angle that will never be watched again, or people being rude while checking out, or distracted driving.

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        Doesn’t change expectations of others for you to respond to work emails or other shit at all hours.

        That was still a thing before the internet/cellphones. My dad would receive phone calls at home at all hours back in the 90s and he was just a low level manager. He just pretended to not be home. When work gave him a cell phone, he would just turn it off when he left work and pretend his phone died.

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    Not sure who they are asking or if the poll is being manipulated, but I really can’t see the majority of Americans wanting this. I lived recently in a retirement community, so boomers and older. And they all use and love the internet and cell phones. And everyone younger I run across uses a cell phone (and a computer both with internet).

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    AT THE TONE THE TIME WILL BE 12:49 AND 50 SECONDS. BEEP!

    No thanks. I like my internet time sync and GPS navigation.

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        It doesn’t have to be a memory, NIST still runs two telephone time numbers - (303) 499-7111 (WWV) and (808) 335-4363 (WWVH). They say they get about 1000 calls a day which is surprisingly high.

        They’re still on shortwave too.

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    I have to wonder if the real discussion here is between ‘pre-internet’ or ‘not the internet where you’re the product being sold and sold to’, because I strongly suspect it’s the latter that’s the issue here.

    I’m just barely old enough to recall how things worked before the internet and I don’t think people would ever really want to go back to not being able to watch anything they want, any time they want, or not having turn-by-turn directions or even things like ordering a pizza by having to call someone on the phone.

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      You hit the nail on the head. I don’t want to give up the data, I want to get rid of the constant advertising. Online life became much nicer once I set up my Pihole.

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    I think there is some merit of wanting to be less forced into being connected all the time but I think a lot of these people that want to go back to a time before cell phones and the Internet are forgetting all the good parts. Like no internet at all means in order to connect with friends or communities around the world you either have to send snail mail or schedule phone calls to take place on land lines. The Internet has brought so many people together in such good ways and throwing that out would be a huge shame. Meanwhile cell phones being gone mean if you’re stranded in the middle of nowhere you are now stuck and have no way of calling for help and have to find some way to get to a phone. Also no cell phones means of you are in a dangerous situation you can’t notify emergency contacts quickly or again call for help.

    I get there are a lot of downsides to the Internet and cell phones but to just ignore all the wonderful and good things this technology has brought is not good. The technology isn’t the issue it’s the people and if we want to be better we need to start training ourselves and others to be better instead of just taking away good and helpful tools

    TLDR: Technology has done a lot of good for the world and taking it away would cause a lot of problems I don’t think people like this realize. Better solution is to grow and be better people