• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    One has to be a truly deplorable piece of human garbage to say “The war is cheap in terms of American lives”. This is basically an admission that Americans don’t give a fuck about the lives of Ukrainians and re cynically using them as a proxy to fight Russia. Americans continue to expose themselves as the scum of the earth that they are.

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        We haven’t donated shit: it’s all being done through lend-lease. The Ukrainians will be be paying back the massive debt for generations, assuming the country even survives.

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        Yeah to try and advance your own geopolitical position. The actions of your regime resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths and a whole country being destroyed all so you chuds could try and weaken Russia in some way. You are utterly deplorable.

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          I guess you mean Russia had no choice but to attack Ukraine? Because of the US/NATO? If so could you explain the reasoning behind this please? I genuinely don’t understand this argument. Seems to me that this war is really detrimental to the Russian people, and they absolutely would have been better off not waging it.

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            sh.itsfulla.nazis poster completely ignoring how the NATO-collective West flouted the entirety of the Minsk Accords, as fucking usual. You people are oathbreakers. Always have been, always will be; 400 years of breaking treaties to all and sundry and murdering them when they call you on it. This is just another link in a chain your kind have spent hundreds of years forging, peckerwood. Murderous barbarians, every single one of you.

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            The war happened because NATO kept expanding eastwards. Stoltenberg has now publicly acknowledged that Putin made clear to NATO in a draft treaty before the war that it could avert it if NATO agreed not to keep enlarging. But NATO rejected the offer.

            Then lastly on Sweden. First of all, it is historic that now Finland is member of the Alliance. And we have to remember the background. The background was that President Putin declared in the autumn of 2021, and actually sent a draft treaty that they wanted NATO to sign, to promise no more NATO enlargement. That was what he sent us. And was a pre-condition for not invade Ukraine. Of course we didn’t sign that.

            The opposite happened. He wanted us to sign that promise, never to enlarge NATO. He wanted us to remove our military infrastructure in all Allies that have joined NATO since 1997, meaning half of NATO, all the Central and Eastern Europe, we should remove NATO from that part of our Alliance, introducing some kind of B, or second class membership. We rejected that.

            https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/opinions_218172.htm#:~:text=The background was that President,condition for not invade Ukraine