I’ve been helping my 72 year old bilingual (Spanish) mother come to terms with one of her nieces having transitioned.

She’s been remarkably progressive about it, but she did bring up some good questions that I didn’t have answers for.

(I have my own set of annoyances for pronouns in English. Using a third person plural for single individuals has been leading to confusion, especially amongst my English L2 friends and family. But pronouns are some of the most conservative parts of speech in any language so I’m not going to tilt at that particular windmill. )

As a question for my LGBTQ+ kith, what have you been seeing/using as pronouns in different languages? Romantic languages are generally still heavily gendered, as are some Germanic. Does that interfere with non-binary language patterns? What about Turkish, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese, Arabic, etc?

Have there been any instances of novel pronouns created?

And, not to pry open old wounds, but has anybody noticed new slurs or other intentionally hurtful epithets?

The first question is an effort to answer questions that I hadn’t even thought to ask. I’m actually pretty proud of the older generation making an effort to live in the modern world.

The rest is pure personal curiosity and possible conversation material.

Huge thank you to everybody taking time out of their day to answer.

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    I can sort of speak on Vietnamese but I’m not exactly fluent. Vietnamese pronouns are mostly gendered, and there is an additional dimension of the relative age/relationship and politeness between you and the other person when choosing which pronoun to use. Can also vary with dialect but I can’t say much on that.

    There’s “tôi” for first-person and “bạn” for second person which are gender neutral but are more formal, there’s also “mình” (1st person). However for example, if you’re a young adult man you might refer to another person as “anh/chị” (literally also means older brother/older sister) if they are a man or woman slightly older than you which is usually the safe bet if with similar ages. If they could be your parents, “chú” or “cô” - also “bác” for both. If they could be grandparents, “ông” or “bà” and you refer to yourself as “cháu/con” for both. Conversely, someone younger you may refer to as “em” (gender-neutral) or “cháu/con” (gender-neutral) and you would refer to yourself as “anh/chú/ông” (male) depending on the degree of generation difference. In a hetero-romantic relationship, the guy is referred to and refers himself as “anh” while the girl “em” regardless of relative age?

    I’m not sure about the queer young generation in Vietnam would use these days. For overseas Vietnamese-Americans, I have heard of “chanh” to address non-binary people which is a mix of “chị + anh” from both binary gender pronouns. There’s also “cam” since “chanh” can also refer to a lemon lol, and “cam” means orange which is a parallel that seems less binary. “Nó” is sort of an equivalent to “it” pronoun but there’s nuance to that. “Tao” and “mày” are also gender-neutral but very informal and derogatory lol