Marx famously was known for not being pedantic about use of terms and phrases.

Israel can’t have Hitlerism, though Fascist thoughts and elements of Ethnonationalist support are not a rare thing. Being more or less clear with terms matters as it is a necessary differentiating element for material conditions and intersectional pressures that happen. Antifascism that we do for decades also means to not equate Nazism with things that aren’t Nazism.

It is a problem when Israel and Nazi Germany are equated. It is also antisemitic and this community tries to be both (un)critically supportive of liberation fights (by less than progressive forces instead of only ideal Marxists) in Palestine and the Levant and not to ignore antisemitism.

I do really did the outdated voice recording of Lenin in regards to Anti Jewish pogroms. Lenin’s real voice reading the speech

don’t you think it deserves inspection if it’s done in good faith?

I think if there is a difference it doesn’t serve us to be imprecise, as it gives room for libs to wriggle out of it. I think it is pretty bad optics and needless edgelording to label Israel as Nazi when it could be labelled as a fascist ethnostate very reasonably. Jew hating is a huge part of Nazi thought. Clearly it is not a part of Israel’s.

I don’t have the answer to the question. Maybe I’m susceptible to jargon but I’m not seeing anyone actually countering them.