• Wertheimer [any]@hexbear.net
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    I’m just exhausted. “Unlike you, I believe the cop at my school is human.” “I just can’t endorse the use of violence.” “We can’t win anything if we’re mean to people.” “Hatred never got us anywhere.”

    Oh, where were you when all of the oppression was happening?

    “I didn’t agree with that, either.”

    Didn’t think to smugly chide those in power, though, now did you? Because that’s inevitable, but our response is unjustified escalation . . .

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    100% this guy does some retail or email/excel/IT office job. Why are they speaking like they have any influence on American foreign policy lmao

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    this is one of the propaganda lines that westerners have been fed about the war. some of the ones I can think of:

    1. this war has been going on forever

    2. this is a religious conflict

    3. it’s extremely complicated and ~nuanced~

    for each one of these, the conclusion is “well, we can’t really do anything about it, it’s unsolvable”. in reality, any reading of the history tells you that it hasn’t been going on all that long, it has next to nothing to do with religion, and it’s not complicated. Israel is clearly in the wrong, and there is a clear way to end the conflict practically overnight.

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      Yep, blew my mind when I realized the people who were saying “it’s a thousand year old religious conflict, an eternal battle between jews and muslims” were 100% full of shit. Israel was invented after WW2 and is a pretty clear cut colony and occupier. It’s so simple it’s hilarious, Israel is completely illegal and illegitimate

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        the US is basically the only country that provides diplomatic cover for Israel, every other country in the world is sick of their shit (as witnessed by endless UN resolutions). end all aid to them, end all diplomatic cover, sanction them into oblivion, and I guarantee you the occupation is over within a week.

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          US is basically the only country that provides diplomatic cover for Israel, every other country in the world is sick of their shit

          I have bad news to you about the other garden countries.

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        Isolate Israel diplomatically, cut off their funding from Europe/America and watch them slowly dissolve as the military breaks down and most of the population moves back to their original nations of origin.

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          Sorry but I simply cannot be a real Jewish man if I’m forced to worship with poor Jews in the US. I need to feel powerful by kicking out a family of 5 and feeling oppressed when they take shots at me

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      The incredible thing is that one of the first results for the conflict is an article from the liberal media outlet Vox which calls all three of those talking points a myth

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    Is that person American? Do they really think of a country born out of genocide just a few hundred years ago is more “adult” than the cradle of civilization itself, continually occupied by humanity since beyond memory, which has seen the rise and fall of countless nations and empires

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      Do they really think of a country born out of genocide just a few hundred years ago is more “adult” than the cradle of civilization itself, continually occupied by humanity since beyond memory, which has seen the rise and fall of countless nations and empires

      They do, because to them “history is bunk” and even if it isn’t, this time around there are Wunderwaffen and the internet which makes the tides of history irrelevant, so they believe. galaxy-brain