Godfather of AI tells ‘60 Minutes’ he fears the technology could one day take over humanity::Computer scientist and cognitive psychologist Geoffrey Hinton says despite its potential for good, AI could one day escape our control.

  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    It will make us so unfathomably stupid WAY before it has the means to conquer us. I’m very interested in who is going to be the first to make the mistake of arming an AI with a physical presence in the world though.

    We’re kind of staring at the clock at this point to see who is the first asshole to create a Terminator scenario.

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        1 year ago

        Though I think we would fix the obesity issue. We’ll have food/drinks that’ll supply us with basic healthier nutrients that mimic whatever we want. Could just be virtual food and a daily pill.

        I think we’ll be more like “Ready Player One.”

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      1 year ago

      General AI doesn’t exist.

      That’s it. If you gave an AI power to do anything it couldn’t even order on Amazon for you (if a developer didn’t program that functionality per hand). If we actually had general AI that could learn and improve itself the world would change in an instant.

      What we have is machine learning, just an algorithm that takes input and gives you output. It can’t act on its own. The massive problem is when you start to rely on that output (while not knowing the reasoning behind decisions happening inside the model). So for example the government trains a model for social security, every person gets some money each month. But in the training data something was off, suddenly your AI is racist and gives every black person a lesser amount. But because everyone thinks the AI knows best you can’t argue against it.

      And no, there is no intelligence there. You can’t ask the AI “why did you give Mr. Smith $300, but Mr. Peters $150?” it doesn’t know, it’s just a model that wrangles numbers and spits something out. Even something seemingly intelligent like Chat GPT just guesses the next word in the output that should fit best. Super complicated, impressive, but in the background it’s again only an algorithm. If you tell Chat GPT to go to a website and create an account, guess what? It can’t.

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        What we have is machine learning, just an algorithm that takes input and gives you output. It can’t act on its own.

        Isn’t that basically what “real learning” is as well? Basically you’re born as a baby, and you take input, and eventually you can replicate it, and eventually you can “talk” for example?

        But in the training data something was off, suddenly your AI is racist and gives every black person a lesser amount.

        Same here, how is that different from “real learning”? You’re born into a racist family, in a racist village where everyone is racist. What is the end-result; you’re probably somewhat racist due to racist input - until you might unlearn that, if you’re exposed to other data that proves your racist ideas were wrong

        If a human brain is basically a big learning computer, why wouldn’t AI eventually reach singularity and emulate a brain and beyond? All the examples you mentioned of what it can’t do, is just stuff it can’t do yet

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          All the AI we have today is, at its core, just pattern recognition.

          ChatGPT can answer questions because it’s been shown a VERY large list of questions and their right answers. ChatGPT has no idea what the question is or what the answer means. It just has an algorithm that knows that a particular answer fits the pattern of “a correct answer” for that question better than any other answer.

          It can’t “reason“ or “think” in any way. It’s not going to become self aware or set its own objectives. And so far we don’t have anything close to true general AI, we don’t even know if it’s possible.

          There’re still risks from the current AI though. AI will sometimes find unanticipated and undesirable solutions that technically meet the goal it was given. A “Terminator” style future is unlikely without artificial general intelligence, but it’s not completely unreasonable to think of a scenario like “I, Robot” where a “dumb” AI subjugates humanity as a solution to a more altruistic goal like ending war or famine, because it’s a solution that matches the pattern it was told to look for.

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      How do you see it making us stupid? I mean we’re already on the path to Idiocracy at this point. I feel like it can help us conquer lots of menial tasks allowing our brains to be tasked with other things. YouTube is a perfect example of what we have so far. Sure a LOT of people are getting to be more stupid but we’ve advanced so quickly in our current world of instant information. If we no longer have to do menial tasks then our time will be open for greater things.

      How do we not have an AI that does our taxes yet? The greatest hurtle at the moment is that everything is monetized to the gills and these LLM’s are not real AI.

      Edit: AITax exists…. Huh go figure.

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      Wasn’t Raytheon owners of the largest quantum computer at one point and was talking about how their drones were preparing to use or using AI? It’ll probably be the US’ dumbass defense contractors that do it first. At least we made some really cool weapons before they killed us…

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      As a normal human I think we should not:

      • give AI access to the internet
      • teach AI to program
      • turn it into physical form

      I think we already broke all these rules…