Hamas says Israeli strikes have killed some captives and it will kill another if bombing without warning continues

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“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant said. “We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.”

  • 520@kbin.social
    8218·
    1 year ago

    They are “acting accordingly” by performing an ethnic cleansing. How disgustingly ironic.

      • endhits@lemmy.world
        279·
        1 year ago

        Israel’s “peace talks” are nonsense.

        Israelis have stolen their land and homes, have performed ethnic cleansing, stripped them of their rights, and acted like they’re the victims the entire time.

        There’s no good solution here, but an Israeli solution is not any solution at all.

        “Israel offering peace talks” is like me offering you a couch after I steal your land and burned your house down. It isn’t workable.

      • co209@lemmy.world
        136·
        1 year ago

        There can be no effective peace talks between the neck and the sword.

        Palestinians have always been a people with a homeland but deprived of a state, their identity forged by oppression and resistance under a succession of empires. They were not called to give any input on the British decision to carve out their land for a Jewish state. They were driven out of their land by the millions, and those that remained were squeezed tighter and tigther, slowly pushed out of the usable land by illegal colonists which are protected by the state of Israel. Palestinian statehood was neglected for long enough that Israel was able to shatter or consume all Palestinian territory, making a Palestinian state inviable.

        The state of Israel is entirely the product of imperialism, first British and now American. There can be no peaceful two-state solution because one of these states should not exist! The only peace will be a one-state peace, and it can only be achieved through bloodshed. Either the Palestinian people will finally gain their sovereignty, or the Zionists will finish building their monoethnic, theocratic paradise over the crushed bones of Palestine.

        The idea that “some societies are just evil” is a very poor excuse to justify apartheid, but it’s certainly not a new one. What is more “evil”: to hate those that invaded your land and deprived you not only of self-determination, but of food, water and a future? Or to consider those of a different religion and cultural background as “human animals”, spit on them and their religious symbols, arrest their children and deprive them of their human rights, kick their elders to the curb, drive them out of their family farms and into crowded and guarded ghettos?

        Calling that heinous conclusion you came to rational is an offense to reason and to all moral and reasonable people.

          • co209@lemmy.world
            42·
            1 year ago

            My point about imperialism stands because it hinges on the creation of the modern state of Israel itself as well as its consequences. The imperialist character of Israel predates even its foundation, let alone the Arab-Israeli War. I don’t understand why you keep linking to this section about the All-Palestine government. Could you elaborate?

            I encourage you to read a bit further into that article about the Gaza Strip. It mentions how Israeli control over the Gaza Strip, both during its occupation and after, has served to operate an intentional de-development, leading to an engineered humanitarian crisis. Israel has arguably turned Gaza into the largest open air prison in the world (the article’s words, not mine), and the large majority of those imprisoned are civilians, including a large contingent of children.

            Here is a link to an article about the recent UN report which categorized Israeli as an apartheid state due to its treatment of Palestine and Palestinians. I encourage you to compare maps of South African apartheid-era bantustans and the current territory controlled by the Palestinian Authority, paying special attention to the fragmentation of territory which destroys any chance of sovereignty and independent development while allowing the country practicing apartheid full control over the isolated area.

            Anyhow, I can see that we are both very passionate about this, but I hope that you are at least able to see this from another point of view and understand that my position is not ill-intentioned. I harbor no hatred towards Jews or Israeli citizens as a whole; I do despise imperialist Zionism and the apartheid practices of the state of Israel. I believe the state should not have been created, because it is from its inception a theocratic herrenvolk democracy and a puppet of imperialist powers used to keep the Arab countries in Western Asia and the Mahgreb in check; and that the best possible solution to the Palestinian conflict is a multi-religious, multi-ethnic Palestinian state in which neither Arab nor Jewish supremacy is permitted.

            • SCB@lemmy.world
              35·
              1 year ago

              imperialism

              Cannot wait til leftist podcasts invent a more accurate term for “countries doing things I don’t like” because this one is so fucking dumb

              • co209@lemmy.world
                22·
                1 year ago

                I’m not a big fan of podcasts, so I got the term from Lenin’s book on the matter; that’s the definition of imperialism I’m using. Countries which are not imperial powers do plenty of things I don’t like. I’m not claiming that one or another war crime is essentially imperialist, I’m saying that the foundation of the state of Israel is a reflection of imperialism as the current, highest stage of capitalism; the stage of the internationalization and concentration of capital through monopoly and the global financial system; reflected politically in the colonization and exploitation of the whole world and its division in empire and colony; which first dominant empire was the British and second and dominant great empire is the US. In this context, the creation of Israel is a British colonial project which was carried out without any consultation to the Palestinian residents of the area, and with the intention to strengthen the British claim to that chunk of the Ottoman Empire. Israel is now repurposed as a bastion of US imperialism in Western Asia, which serves to keep the Arab powers in check and satisfy the goals of Christian Zionism.

                • SCB@lemmy.world
                  34·
                  1 year ago

                  so I got the term from Lenin’s book on the matter

                  Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Tripe is tripe.

      • bobalot@lemmy.world
        55·
        1 year ago

        I totally agree with you.

        In the same vein, Ukraine has totally ignored various offers from Russia and isn’t a true partner for peace.

        All they need to do is compromise and give up their land.

          • bobalot@lemmy.world
            2·
            1 year ago

            So the moment the Palestinians stop resisting, Israel will stop settlement construction (i.e. Ethnic cleansing) despite this being the opposite position of Netanyahu’s government?

            Of course!

      • Dkarma@lemmy.world
        725·
        1 year ago

        The only way there will be peace is if Israel moves. Any other negotiations are pointless. There is no path to peace with Israel staying where it is.

        Ignorant statement of the day: the only “apartheid” states in the Middle East are Arab ones. I’ve been on projects where Muslims tried to separate Americans with PhDs and Masters degrees from their teams and put them in slums just because of the color of their skin or their ancestry

        Imagine siding with the oppressors and not the oppressed and trying to darvo literal genocide.

        You both sides this argument then side with the fascists. Wow.

          • Neshura@bookwormstory.socialEnglish
            43·
            1 year ago

            you haven’t been following this shitshow for long have you? Look up Israels illegal settlements, both sides in this are evil and don’t give a shit about civilian lives.

            • SCB@lemmy.world
              22·
              1 year ago

              Look up Israels illegal settlements

              The west bank has nothing to do with Gaza or Hamas

              Fatah runs the west bank

              • Neshura@bookwormstory.socialEnglish
                12·
                1 year ago

                what the…

                those two regions are inhabited by the same people, from the (former) same country. Fatah runs the West Bank yes, that does not suddenly make the people there non-Palestinians. Hamas still uses the issues in the West Bank as ammunition in their propaganda against Israel because the Palestinians in Gaza, surprise, care about the Palestinians in the West Bank.

                • SCB@lemmy.world
                  22·
                  1 year ago

                  Imagine not even knowing what is happening in the place you claim so passionately to care about lol

              • Neshura@bookwormstory.socialEnglish
                32·
                1 year ago

                hm, there’s a name for illegally occupying territory of a foreign nation while claiming they can’t claim that territory. Ah right, colonialism. The very act of building settlements in someone else’s territory is an act of aggression, it’s in no way peaceful.