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I hope we can give women their bodily autonomy back soon.
Unlikely. Your political system is broken. One side wants to take it away and the other keeps saying they will prevent it, but when they get in power they do absolutely nothing.
EDIT: Just to clarify. I’m not on Republicans side, but I’m also willing to callout Democrats for their failures. I just hate money in politics and 95% of politicians are on corporate side not idealogical one.
Examples of the Democrats getting “in power they do absolutely nothing”?
Critics responded to Obama’s tweets by arguing he had had the ability to codify Roe into federal law during his time as president but failed to do so despite Democrats controlling the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives from 2009 to 2011.
Source: https://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-blasted-not-codifying-roe-v-wade-democrat-failure-1719156
Look why don’t we just point this out, which is a pretty obvious hole in all this.
Do you really think the Affordable Care Act would be the way it is if they ever had the majority needed to codify Roe?
They spent literal years getting filibustered.
Absolutely. This is the group that never put the public option on the table to begin with as a show of “good faith bipartisanship”. Which netted them zero votes. We can argue whether Democrats don’t know how to fight or just don’t want to. But for now the result is the same. A few are finally starting to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. But they’re still a minority.
The facts don’t support your contention: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869
111th Congress (2009–2011)
Majority Party: Democrats (57 seats)
Minority Party: Republicans (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucused with the Democrats)Total Seats: 100
Note: Senator Arlen Specter was reelected in 2004 as a Republican, and became a Democrat on April 30, 2009. Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected in 2006 as an Independent.
You spent all that time typing a reply yet you didn’t even read my source…
He never had 60 present to overcome the filibuster and only passed ACA because Joe fucking Lieberman was bribed by the insurance industry to remove the public option. You should edit your posts for factual accuracy.
Oh I read it, written by Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm.
And if your party member is incapable of voting then he should have resigned a long fucking time ago. That’s on them for not forcing him out. The same way Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have resigned due to her failing health instead of clinging to last vestiges of power.
I guess you are going to defend Sen. Dianne Feinstein now too, when she incapable of doing her job, but being forced to stay in her position because that’s convientent for Adam Schiff to stay in power.
Your link literally discredits your own argument. Not enough people to overturn a filibuster…
59+vice president=60
EDIT: Actually I’m wrong here. Vice president only has tie breaker vote.
Is the ACA period the only time period y’all know how to cite? If that’s your only example you’ve got, then it’s 100% true that there haven’t been any other opportunities. And getting the ACA through and properly implemented was its own massive battle.
I mean they had both houses of congress and the presidency in 2009. They could have codified Roe v Wade. Obama even told Planned Parenthood it would be the first thing he’d want to do in office when he was running. Then once he was in office it changed to “not my highest legislative priority.”
I get there were political reasons for it and he was trying to pass Obama Care but it still sucks.
The facts don’t support your contention: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869
People like Sinema and Manchin are a feature of Dem politics, not a bug. They are there to slow everything down and take the heat of unpopularity so that the party can drag its feet on all of their promises.
Biden’s cabinet split the huge infrastructure bill, ensuring that the parts they wanted would pass and the stuff they promised and didn’t care about would tank.
I heard someone say that the means testing of student debt relief gave the GOP extra time to sink it in some way.
The basic playbook is: vote for us or some crazy fucks will be the alternative; we talk a great game, but republicans always find a way to sabotage us when we get there.
Then you should just go ahead and vote for the Republicans if your tinfoil hat is on that tight.
I’ll do one better and vote for socialists.
I love that for you. While we have a 2 party system a vote for the socialists in this context is a vote for Republicans.
And that’s how change never happens. You’re forgetting that republicans were a third party who got off the ground because people cared deeply about abolition. We just need to get people aware of how to get Medicaid for all. Also, your snide tone isn’t useful.
Dem shill
Wtf do you think they could have done? Plenty of states have had voter initiatives and legislation protecting abortion rights.
I really get sick of the “both sides” garbage.
At this point the both sides people are actively supporting the GOP. All they do is try and stop progress while simultaneously complaining that the Democrats don’t get anything done. They care more about being an enlightened centrist than they do helping people and it shows.
Critics responded to Obama’s tweets by arguing he had had the ability to codify Roe into federal law during his time as president but failed to do so despite Democrats controlling the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives from 2009 to 2011.
Source: https://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-blasted-not-codifying-roe-v-wade-democrat-failure-1719156
Yeah they had the votes and time to pass one major piece of legislation while they held 60 seats and they passed the Affordable Care Act and Patient Protection Plan.
If conservatives weren’t fighting literally anything that needs to get done, it would be done. It’s not a both sides issue, it never was, this is purely conservative talking points. The Democrats not having enough support and political capital to get past the onslaught of GOP bullshit is only reason to support them even more. Apathy and the need to say “both sides are bad” is exactly why we’re in this position.
I’m not on either side. I’m not even American. And you are in this position because you vote the same people who make the same promises over and over and over again. Vote on someone new, who doesn’t have 50 page record on breaking every single promise given. No matter the side you choose. Or just remove money from politics and suddently everyone resigns.
I’m worried you’re right, but I’m still hopeful. My daughter deserves a better country.
Yes she does.
Democrats haven’t been in power in congress except that one brief time in 2009 when we passed the biggest expansion of the health care system ever.
Imagine what we could do with 8 years of democratic power instead of just a few months.
They need more than 49.5 votes with some of them coming from Georgia and West Virginia in order to do much.
It’s easier to stop things in government than to pass them. Why do the Republicans get so much credit for just stopping things, but the Dems get none?
Even when they have full power the Democrats always have someone that will play the bad guy and vote with the Republicans.
To me Republicans always stick together Democrats can’t get their people to do the same.
It only took 15 attempts for McCarthy to get his speakership, first time in over a century it took more than one
That was different. That was the MAGA wing of the GOP. They are extremists and he was a moron to deal with them.
But look how all the Republicans on the Senate under McConnell vote. Also normally Congress too but the maga put a wrench in the normal GOP strategy.
Critics responded to Obama’s tweets by arguing he had had the ability to codify Roe into federal law during his time as president but failed to do so despite Democrats controlling the White House, the Senate and the House of Representatives from 2009 to 2011.
Source: https://www.newsweek.com/barack-obama-blasted-not-codifying-roe-v-wade-democrat-failure-1719156
You like to be wrong a lot, yes? https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869
The laws I read the USA enacting in their states are sickening. Why is your conservative party so extremely regressive? Its influencing politics over an entire ocean too.
wait, what the fuck did I just read?
this case is way more traumatic and disturbed than a breach of user data from a company that will gladly sell its users to the highest bidder, which is honestly unsurprising at this point.
but the living hell that family is experiencing… and being punished for? they need to get these people some healthcare, not incarceration. damn.
Your response is problematic because you wrote it with a healthy state of mind. And that will soon be punishable @[email protected]
This is the kind of thing riots should come from.
I keep asking myself at what point we’ll rise up. Sadly, my conclusion is that it’s not until it’s too late.
i mean, the australian government is trampling on our rights on an almost daily occurrence, and we just sit back like “yeah, this is fine”
Police raided the family’s home and…
Sweet fucking Jesus…
this is just fucked up.
This is just sickening! I’m not sure if I want to vomit or rage.
Sooo no digital, what about phone calls? Are judges signing wiretap warrants for abortion investigations? What the fuck.
If you use an app with E2E (end-to-end encryption) then you are good, but Facebook even though it offers it, it’s not on by default and they still collect a lot of metadata. Signal would be recommenation to any non tech savvy person who just wants to keep their private messages private.
Is WhatsApp no longer an option now that it’s owned my meta?
WhatsApp does offer end-to-end encryption, so it should be safe in theory, but… it’s facebook. Personally, I would steer clear anyway.
Soon people will be making up ridiculous code words to make spying harder.
“Mom, I wanna go to that spicy food restaurant because I heard their chefs are very good”
“Okay honey, I am available at 6PM, we can go there together.”
Spicy food restaurant = Abortion clinic
Chef = Medical professionals
3 hours are added the time so the time is actually 3PM
Of course, end to end encryption is still the best, but adding code words can provide plausible deniability in case the phone is seized.
That doesn’t really help you if you have your phone with you that tracks your location and can be corelated to the messages sent.
Oh no worries, I’m gonna open both a spicy food restaurant and an abortion clinic at the same location. Double the income!
But seriously tho, maybe we need Graphene OS on airplane mode. Anyone know how to train pigeons?
If they have to use code words they’re not going to be getting care in their state, not legally anyway. That’s part of how they can even be charged with something.
George Orwell was 39 years late. Or so we think we know…
fucking hell world
Did anyone not read the article? What they did was illegal regardless of Roe being overturned. Do you honestly think they should just walk free?
I’m 100% for women’s rights and body autonomy, but the law is right on this one.
Unfortunately, I think some people here believe that an abortion at 2 weeks is exactly the same as at 9 months…
