Israeli President Isaac Herzog said Palestinian civilians in Gaza were “responsible” for the Saturday attack by Hamas.

“It is an entire nation out there that is responsible. It’s not true this rhetoric about civilians [being] not aware, not involved. It’s absolutely not true,” Herzog said Friday. “They could have risen up, they could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d’état.”

“I agree there are many innocent Palestinians who don’t agree with this, but if you have a missile in your goddamn kitchen and you want to shoot it at me, am I allowed to defend myself? We have to defend ourselves, we have the full right to do so,” he added.

The Israeli president made the comments while calling for over 1 million people in northern Gaza to evacuate in 24 hours. The evacuation was first announced to Gaza residents via leaflets from the Israel Defense Forces.

“Civilians of Gaza City, evacuate south for your own safety and the safety of your families and distance yourself from Hamas terrorists who are using you as human shields,” the leaflets read. “This evacuation is for your own safety. You will be able to return to Gaza City only when another announcement permitting it is made.”

Hamas has told people in Gaza to ignore the evacuation order.

“Israel is removing Palestinians from their homes and lands for a second time, and we have responded to the Zionist crimes by targeting them and Ben Gurion,” Abu Obaida, spokesperson of Hamas’ Al-Qassam Brigades, said. “Displacement and exile are not for us, Israel is carrying out psychological warfare through the threats and their dark history, which shows they carry out crimes and killings as a form of collective punishment.”

The United Nations has called the evacuation “impossible,” due to the large number of people asked to leave the area, according to CNN. John Kirby, the National Security Council coordinator for strategic communications, called the evacuation a “tall order.”

“We understand what they’re trying to do: They’re trying to move civilians out of harm’s way and giving them fair warning. Now it’s a tall order. It’s a million people and very urban, dense environment. It’s already a combat zone. So I don’t think anybody’s underestimating the challenge here of effecting that evacuation,” Kirby told CNN.

The war between Hamas and Israel started on Saturday when Hamas soldiers attacked Israel from Gaza. Hamas killed over 1,000 people and took over 100 hostages in that attack, according to NPR. Hamas has been designated a terrorist organization by many countries including the U.S., Israel and those in the European Union. Since the beginning of the war, Israel says Hamas killed 1,300 people. The Palestinian health ministry reports 1,800 killed in Gaza.

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    The reverse is also true? Israel is carrying out a policy of colonization against the Palestinians, and the Israeli public knows this. A policy which has lead to a very one sided body count. Does that mean the Israeli civilians killed recently were, in fact, valid targets? Of course not. Only a psychopath would say so.

    And, in turn, only a psychopath would try to justify the collective punishment being carried out against Palestinians.

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      The civilians don’t have to be valid targets. It’s a war. Did America warn Japan before they dropped atomics? Israel is already doing what they can to limit civilian losses, but it will never be enough for people like you. The Palestinian people cannot remove Hamas, so Israel will do what it must to defend themselves. That’s what this war is about. Keep excusing terrorists. Keep demanding Israel let their children face constant threats of rockets and invasion. It’s not you who has to live that way.

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        Did America warn Japan before they dropped atomics?

        Yes? Once 11 days before the first weapon and again as the first weapon was being deployed.

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          Good on America, then. The point is, Israel is at least doing something to minimize civilian casualties. That contradicts the narrative in this community, that Israel is genociding Palestinians. Giving civilians warnings to evacuate is not a genocide.

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        Israel is doing nothing to limit civilian casualties. They are covering their ass with the weakest excuses to justify their murderous intent. Your murderous intent. Air dropping pamphlets? Get the fuck out of here. Well functioning stable democracies completely at peace would have a difficult/impossible time evacuating an area as densely populated as Gaza.

        Israel is murdering civilians, they know they are murdering civilians, and they want to murder civilians. The state of Israel is acting as a terrorist.

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          Again, they declared war on Hamas, not Palestine. Do you insist that Palestine is Hamas? Do you remember what Hamas did to them? What this community refuses to acknowledge or remember? Of course you know. You’ll use any loss of civilian life to attack Israel, because ultimately when Israel’s civilians are attacked, you won’t be there to defend them. I’ll just repeat the quote to you:

          “I agree there are many innocent Palestinians who don’t agree with this, but if you have a missile in your goddamn kitchen and you want to shoot it at me, am I allowed to defend myself? We have to defend ourselves, we have the full right to do so, he added.”

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            Again, they declared war on Hamas, not Palestine. Do you insist that Palestine is Hamas?

            The Israeli President also said:

            “It is an entire nation out there that is responsible. It’s not true this rhetoric about civilians [being] not aware, not involved. It’s absolutely not true,” Herzog said Friday. “They could have risen up, they could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d’état.”

            Which is from the article the post is about so you are well aware of it. Don’t ask if I make the distinction between Palestinians and Hamas. I do, but I’m not the one currently waging a bombing campaign while claiming the distinction doesn’t matter. Israel is refusing to make that distinction. You are as well. While trying to speak out both sides of your mouth.

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              "They could have risen up, they could have fought against that evil regime which took over Gaza in a coup d’état.”

              Absolutely true. Peace won’t come until the Palestinian people realize that the least death and destruction comes from rebelling against the terrorist forces within, instead of harboring and excusing them.

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                And the Israelis could rise up against the colonial project being waged against the Palestinians, but don’t. So that brings us back to the question: Are civilians valid targets, then, in your opinion?

                Because that would be, as I expressed earlier, the take of a psychopath.

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                  They could rise up against the oppression of a group of people harboring terrorists and shooting hundreds of rockets a day at them? Gee, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t do that.

                  Civilians aren’t valid targets. Hamas is. Civilians can become valid targets if they take action to harbor or defend Hamas. At that point, they stop being civilians.

                  Also, where are your tears for the civilians of Israel? I’m waiting.

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                    So you are pro murdering civilians.

                    I do feel for civilian Israelis who have died as a result of this conflict, and their loved ones. Whereas you have fully admitted you are fine with murdering Palestinian civilians so long as you can provide the weakest possible justification to remove their humanity. You aren’t in a position to shame me. Shame on you, murderer.