On stuff outside of lemmygrad, we are receiving a lot of hate, especially by those who just moved from Reddit. Guess they lost their hidden privilege at Reddit as their rhetoric used to be almost universal over there, while genzedong and our other subs get censored and banned. And now, on lemmy, their stuff isn’t universal, as we are more prevalent here. Seems like they really want that hidden privilege back

  • GrandmasterFrank@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    14·
    1 year ago

    Look amigo, I get there is a lot of depth to be had in a discussion like this, but I’m just explaining what people generally mean when they say tankie.

    I would agree they are bad Communists, but unfortunately they are extremely visible and influence how non-Leftists see Communists, which is why many Leftists are quick and eager to disavow any connection with them.

    • m532@lemmygrad.ml
      3·
      1 year ago

      They are bad because they oppress the privileged, I assume. The privileged do not need communism. Leave communism to the unprivileged people.

              • GrandmasterFrank@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                02·
                1 year ago

                If you aren’t defending, excusing, or justifying the oppression of people by the USSR or PRC, then I’m not talking about you; you were not the type of person which “tankie” is typically used to describe

                • kristina (she/her)@lemmygrad.ml
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  youre pretty fucking weird. being trans sucks everywhere right now, almost equally except for in certain areas like florida where theyre doing genocide. at least in china they dont have a media circus shitting on us 24/7, and theyre not doing genocide like florida, so its quite a bit better than the USA. the USSR pioneered many trans surgeries for trans men in, iirc, Latvia, actually.

                  cuba is probably the best place for trans people in the world right now though, which again isnt saying much. the issue with cuba is they dont have enough docs for trans affirming care, though based on the cuban trans people ive talked to that is being resolved. trans healthcare is free there and with the new constitution, by law cuba has the best protections for LGBT people in the world.

                  youre just misinformed about, well, everything, really, and never talked with LGBT people in other countries.

        • m532@lemmygrad.ml
          3·
          1 year ago

          They were persecuted, sadly. Communist countries stopped doing that shit earlier than capitalist ones.

        • CarlMarks@lemmygrad.ml
          2·
          1 year ago

          It took West Germany 2 decades to catch up with East Germany re: LGBTQ rights. Tge USSR was the primary opponent of the Nazis, do you know what they did to anyone falling outside of the sexual or gender norms? Germany was a bastion for queer people before the Nazis took over - Nazis quietly supported by Western powers under the hope that they would kill the Soviets (spoiler alert: they tried to kill every Slav). During the cold war in capitalist countries, homosexuality was generally illegal, often criminal, and was used to blackmail people, and notably used against high profile civil rights activists.

          Does that make the oppression that did exist in some socialist countries okay? Of course not. But they did much better than the capitalists, so it’s ridiculous to choose that as your primary criticism. Socialism isn’t a utopia and no socialists ever claim it is. It is a struggle, and the earlier it starts the better we can progress.

          Cubs is currently running circles sround capitalist countries with its new family code. Were you aware of this?